Students enrolled in SEC schools from the Northeast

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:i realize this data is up until 2023 however what have you noticed at your own schools here in the mid atlantic or elsewhere? I have noticed a trend of students in the class of 2025 opting not to attend any schools in the south even though they were accepted. Years prior I saw a lot more students opting to attend schools in the south.

Why do you think they’re opting not to attend? If they are opting not to go for political reasons, why did they even apply in the first place?

NP here. Some are saying they want to stay away from the political craziness and others are picking schools that have better reputations academically. The weather isn't the biggest draw anymore.

Then, as I said, why even apply in the first place? It’s not like the political craziness only cropped up within the past few months…

It means avoiding the extreme woke and anti-semitism in the north.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's a surprise that SEC schools are appealing to students in the Northeast. I suspect the long Covid restrictions really accelerated the trend out of the Northeast and toward the South. But the reality is that the public options in the Northeast are considerably worse than in the South, Midwest, or West Coast. The Northeast prioritizes very expensive private schools over publics, and unsurprisingly, there has been a mass exodus out because there really aren't that many people that dream of the University of Rhode Island, UConn, SUNY, University of New Hampshire and so on. The affordable options are much better in the rest of the country, especially in the South. There are no Northeast equivalents of Texas, Georgia, or Florida, not to mention non-SEC southern schools like Georgia Tech, UVA, or UNC. You get both a better education and a better experience by going to school in the South.

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It comes down to price and kids wanting the big school experience. No way could we afford a private school for our kids. We don't have a million lying around for tuition.

Our first is heading to college in the Fall. We didn't make enough to save a lot when we were younger parents. So, by default our kids were/are looking at more reasonably priced schools.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

They may have targeted the NE but majority of their OOS students still come from the south. Twice as many OOS students at Alabama come from TN and GA compared to NY and NJ. Heres a map if you’d like to see for yourself: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html. South Carolina has more students from NJ but still not nearly as many from NJ as from the South, especially from NC. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

They may have targeted the NE but majority of their OOS students still come from the south. Twice as many OOS students at Alabama come from TN and GA compared to NY and NJ. Heres a map if you’d like to see for yourself: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html. South Carolina has more students from NJ but still not nearly as many from NJ as from the South, especially from NC. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

Point being, these schools are still predominantly made up of southerners, with a significant and growing contingent from the NE. But it’s 270 kids from NJ out of an undergraduate student body of nearly 30,000 so if anyone is actually calling it university of New Jersey, they are misguided

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

They may have targeted the NE but majority of their OOS students still come from the south. Twice as many OOS students at Alabama come from TN and GA compared to NY and NJ. Heres a map if you’d like to see for yourself: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html. South Carolina has more students from NJ but still not nearly as many from NJ as from the South, especially from NC. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

Your link doesn’t work. Also is this a reputable source?

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Anonymous wrote:Emory best of both worlds. Northern school with a Southern address.

Read the headline. Subject is SEC schools.

Emory boosters are insecure that GA state schools are more fun.

No fun when you're unemployed

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Kids head south because of the weather, D1 sports and decent schools that don't cost a lot. Alternatively, kids stay in-state but that isn't as easy as it sounds. Cause too many families think that the only choice is the state flagship. The other schools are not good enough for their kids. We are guilty of this. Kid is borderline at PSU and Pitt and he hates Temple. So, we are searching for an affordable alternative.

I would think that most families are like us. We have saved some (not enough), plan to cash flow some and the rest are going to be loans. So, we are price sensitive. 10,000-15,000 extra a year makes difference.

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Huge migration to SEC schools-see it everyday on college decals on Range Rovers, Mercedes and BMW’s . This trend will continue as others have mentioned warm weather, great sports, booming sunbelt cities, improved academics at a school half the costs of a northeast private. Will this impact the Ivies or top LAC’s no but most likely midsize privates ranked outside the top 25 charging 90-100 k a year for mediocre results.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

They may have targeted the NE but majority of their OOS students still come from the south. Twice as many OOS students at Alabama come from TN and GA compared to NY and NJ. Heres a map if you’d like to see for yourself: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html. South Carolina has more students from NJ but still not nearly as many from NJ as from the South, especially from NC. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

Your link doesn’t work. Also is this a reputable source?

I can’t get the link to work either but if you google demographics out of state + the university name you will find this data for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids head south because of the weather, D1 sports and decent schools that don't cost a lot. Alternatively, kids stay in-state but that isn't as easy as it sounds. Cause too many families think that the only choice is the state flagship. The other schools are not good enough for their kids. We are guilty of this. Kid is borderline at PSU and Pitt and he hates Temple. So, we are searching for an affordable alternative.

I would think that most families are like us. We have saved some (not enough), plan to cash flow some and the rest are going to be loans. So, we are price sensitive. 10,000-15,000 extra a year makes difference.

We are price sensitive too.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

For Alabama it does. They have targeted NE suburbs for many years. Also, South Carolina has been called the University of New Jersey for a while.

They may have targeted the NE but majority of their OOS students still come from the south. Twice as many OOS students at Alabama come from TN and GA compared to NY and NJ. Heres a map if you’d like to see for yourself: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/the-university-of-alabama/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html. South Carolina has more students from NJ but still not nearly as many from NJ as from the South, especially from NC. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-south-carolina-columbia/student-life/diversity/chart-geographic-diversity.html

Your link doesn’t work. Also is this a reputable source?

I can’t get the link to work either but if you google demographics out of state + the university name you will find this data for yourself.

At Alabama, most out of state representation is Georgia, but next is Illinois. 60% OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of these mid Atlantic yuppie families are actually giving their kids good advice. Their parents career paths of going to a prestigious undergrad to get into a high end law school to join a firm that “provides legal services” to the federal government may not be stable going forward. Safer to go to a sec school, join a fraternity/sorority and marry a country club kid from a family that owns ford dealership chain and construction companies is much wiser. “We’ll come visit you in Hattiesburg twice a year!”

I echo this. Things are changing VERY rapidly and the old rules no longer apply. As the ivies become more and more international/questbridge/social justice, the actual wealthy are becoming less interested because the network is not the same as it was even ten years ago. Newer networks that are actually a bit more conservative (which is hush hush) are cropping up.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody on our street went south. They all are in Boston/New England or Michigan or California. The two families we know that went SEC are very big drinker/golfers.

Oh on your street. So you guys are the intellectual kings. Smart kids are going where they will be happy and also where they may receive a free education on merit money down south. No one cares about Ivy anymore. It is a down brand.

No one cares about Ivy? Bwaaaaaahhhhhhh have you actually spent time on this board? lol

I agree. A lot of the super smart kids at our top public are going to our flagship state or taking merit offers. The reason seems to be that they don't want to go to a depressing grind school (and want to have fun) and that they want to leverage their APs and graduate in 3 years. The latter seems to be a big trend.