Do you know people fleeing dc?

[Anonymous]

We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

Do you have citizenship or residency/visas lined up? What are you doing? I'm starting to think about it. My mother has retained a lawyer to pursue Italian citizenship.

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Anonymous wrote:In the coming months, 20,000 dc area people will be RIF’d from just HHS alone:

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/hhs-restructuring-doge-fact-sheet.html

If you don’t believe the simple reality that people will move after being let go by .gov then I don’t know what to say to you.

HHS is only one department. The federal employee presence in the DC area is enormous.

And there are a gazillion other jobs within 20 miles of the White House. On Indeed right now there are over 400 openings for the job I do. Bunch of crybabies.

No locals are taking those jobs. Those are for Iowans who think they've made in getting a job in DC for $60K!!! (CAN YOU BELIVE IT??!!) a year lol little do they know....

If aliens unlawfully present in the U.S. will soon be returning (or will be returned) to their countries, couldn’t displaces area workers find lots of employment opportunities doing cleaning work or lawn care?

You are essentially advocating for educated Americans to experience what educated immigrants do when they move to a new country where they don't speak the language? Like when you were a doctor or an engineer in your country you cannot work here without perfect mastery of English and certain certifications so you resort to low wage service jobs in order to survive. This is what you want for all the laid off educated Americans? Experience what it's like to be an immigrant who doesn't have proper language skills or education certification in their own country?

Think about what message this sends to our youth and what value your college degree has in this country and why it costs so much to lead you to a career in house cleaning, lawncare and food service.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

Do you have citizenship or residency/visas lined up? What are you doing? I'm starting to think about it. My mother has retained a lawyer to pursue Italian citizenship.

Also wondering how people are emigrating to other countries... I am one generation too far removed to claim Ireland or similar. No connections to get a job offer and work visa...

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Anonymous wrote:We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

Do you have citizenship or residency/visas lined up? What are you doing? I'm starting to think about it. My mother has retained a lawyer to pursue Italian citizenship.

I have citizenship through a grandparent. I hadn’t realized it would be an option for me learned about it during Trump 1.0 and got the documents in place.

[Anonymous]

I know a number of people who took the fork (all were already eligible for retirement). I know no one who has moved out of the area, and don't know of anyone who plans to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:What are people thinking to do with their homes? Sell, rent out if they own the place? What is Europe like? More of this same as U.S. of A?

Lol. No, not the same as the US. But not necessarily better, either.

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Anonymous wrote:People moved out when crime peaked.

I do know a couple with a young child who moved 2 yrs ago after something happened that made the DW feel unsafe. Never did hear exactly what it was. They moved to Richmond where she is from, found a much bigger house, etc. The DH still comes up here pretty regularly to work (independent contractor projects) which surprised me, that is one hell of a commute.

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Anonymous wrote:Know of a scientist at *** agency who is moving back to Europe because of job/funds freeze. House is on market.

Will ask in real estate forum but wonder if better to rent or sell now.

That is an all-facts-and-circumstances test. No easy answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Everybody is gone. That’s why there are no more traffic jams in the area.

I just spit out my protein shake.

Goodness, this was a good laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:In the coming months, 20,000 dc area people will be RIF’d from just HHS alone:

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/hhs-restructuring-doge-fact-sheet.html

If you don’t believe the simple reality that people will move after being let go by .gov then I don’t know what to say to you.

HHS is only one department. The federal employee presence in the DC area is enormous.

And there are a gazillion other jobs within 20 miles of the White House. On Indeed right now there are over 400 openings for the job I do. Bunch of crybabies.

No locals are taking those jobs. Those are for Iowans who think they've made in getting a job in DC for $60K!!! (CAN YOU BELIVE IT??!!) a year lol little do they know....

If aliens unlawfully present in the U.S. will soon be returning (or will be returned) to their countries, couldn’t displaces area workers find lots of employment opportunities doing cleaning work or lawn care?

This has been discussed ad naseum on this site...the reason those workers are/were here in the first place is 1. look at what a certain country's "foreign" policies have done to the countries from where the workers come- they are wanting or out of necessity to flee their home country, 2. Had you or any fellow Americans wanted those types of jobs? Isn't that why workers from those countries were "allowed" to come to America? Do you think now that folks do not have a Fed job, they are going to do the jobs they didn't want in the first place? The jobs that doesn't require a college degree and some people who have been let go from their job have a or multiple higher level degrees. Could see some people who don't have a job to do lawn care as a hobby job and maybe they will until they find another job again. Maybe you would like to work on Mr Perdue's Indiana farm or picking crops at Mrs.FruitsVeggie's?

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Not to mention that landscaping and house cleaning are both literally back-breaking jobs, and most let-go feds are not going to have the strength and stamina to do it. Not for 8+ hours per day.

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Anonymous wrote:In the coming months, 20,000 dc area people will be RIF’d from just HHS alone:

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/hhs-restructuring-doge-fact-sheet.html

If you don’t believe the simple reality that people will move after being let go by .gov then I don’t know what to say to you.

HHS is only one department. The federal employee presence in the DC area is enormous.

And there are a gazillion other jobs within 20 miles of the White House. On Indeed right now there are over 400 openings for the job I do. Bunch of crybabies.

No locals are taking those jobs. Those are for Iowans who think they've made in getting a job in DC for $60K!!! (CAN YOU BELIVE IT??!!) a year lol little do they know....

If aliens unlawfully present in the U.S. will soon be returning (or will be returned) to their countries, couldn’t displaces area workers find lots of employment opportunities doing cleaning work or lawn care?

You are essentially advocating for educated Americans to experience what educated immigrants do when they move to a new country where they don't speak the language? Like when you were a doctor or an engineer in your country you cannot work here without perfect mastery of English and certain certifications so you resort to low wage service jobs in order to survive. This is what you want for all the laid off educated Americans? Experience what it's like to be an immigrant who doesn't have proper language skills or education certification in their own country?

Think about what message this sends to our youth and what value your college degree has in this country and why it costs so much to lead you to a career in house cleaning, lawncare and food service.

Would probably be good for people, tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

Do you have citizenship or residency/visas lined up? What are you doing? I'm starting to think about it. My mother has retained a lawyer to pursue Italian citizenship.

Also wondering how people are emigrating to other countries... I am one generation too far removed to claim Ireland or similar. No connections to get a job offer and work visa...

In most countries you need to have 1) qualifications/experience working in a job they really need people for (for example, doctors and nurses are pretty much needed everywhere, highly skilled IT tends to be in demand, certain engineering disciplines, etc. There are opportunities that are somewhat country specific as well -- finance in Switzerland and high-level farming in New Zealand for example), or 2) a LOT of money to invest. And at this point most countries don't just allow you to buy a 1M house and call that the investment; many require investment in a business and employing a certain number of local people.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the official memo:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25545392/omb-opm-memo.pdf

Phase II plans are due on April 14th (it’s right in the memo. Read it).

Large RIFs will begin soon after.

It’s about to get much, much worse.

OMG. I just read that memo.

They are only in the beginning phases of starting to plan to fire federal workers.

How many people in the DC area actually work for the federal government ?

Same question I had. Is it a lot of people around here?

3+ million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re moving to Europe. Not immediately, but in about a year. I’m a fired fed and my spouse is a more securely employed fed. Getting things lined up now to leave after the 25-26 school year. Two ES kids. We aren’t sharing with friends yet.

Don't worry, the posters here will let them know once you've landed in Europe