Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees


Give me one example of schools using race as a factor when hiring someone or extending a scholarship to someone. Crickets.... schools are one place where racism isn't a factor. School age children haven't yet learned how to be racist at an early age. Perhaps us adults could learn something from our young children.





Montgomery county uses 4 criteria when analyzing school zone boundaries. The primary one is diversity.


Bologna!


“ Our Board Policy, FAA, Educational Facilities Planning, identifies four main factors for consideration when establishing and making changes to school boundaries. These include:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Geography
Stability of school assignments over time
Facility utilization”

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/boundary-study/



Drawing up school boundaries doesn't include or exclude certain children from going to public school based on race. It simply determines WHERE they go to school. No child is being denied public school due to the color of their skin and no one is getting hired or fired because of their skin color and those things are relevant to this topic.


What about those tens of thousands of six-figure DEI management and school admin jobs that literally popped up overnight during covid? They seemed to be pretty much AA exclusive positions. And since many of these jobs never existed before, what was the relevant work experience needed to qualify for the position?


Education experience, leading a team, administration and project management. DUh. And I think you are making stuff up about these jobs being given mostly to black people, but even so, maybe it's because they have more experience fighting for inclusion and representation than say, I don't know, YOU?
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Anonymous wrote:More proof

https://www.newsweek.com/dei-unconstitutional-opinion-1997453


AN opnion piece from the rag newsweek written by members of a right leaning think tank is proof...of what exactly?
When people think this kind of stuff is evidence, the irony is, it's only evidence of their complete lack of qualifications for much more than trolling.
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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.



This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.


Prove it.



You are lazy PP.

Bloomberg for starters:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/


Read: “white people need not apply.”
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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees


Give me one example of schools using race as a factor when hiring someone or extending a scholarship to someone. Crickets.... schools are one place where racism isn't a factor. School age children haven't yet learned how to be racist at an early age. Perhaps us adults could learn something from our young children.





Montgomery county uses 4 criteria when analyzing school zone boundaries. The primary one is diversity.


Bologna!


“ Our Board Policy, FAA, Educational Facilities Planning, identifies four main factors for consideration when establishing and making changes to school boundaries. These include:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Geography
Stability of school assignments over time
Facility utilization”

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/boundary-study/



Drawing up school boundaries doesn't include or exclude certain children from going to public school based on race. It simply determines WHERE they go to school. No child is being denied public school due to the color of their skin and no one is getting hired or fired because of their skin color and those things are relevant to this topic.


What about those tens of thousands of six-figure DEI management and school admin jobs that literally popped up overnight during covid? They seemed to be pretty much AA exclusive positions. And since many of these jobs never existed before, what was the relevant work experience needed to qualify for the position?


Education experience, leading a team, administration and project management. DUh. And I think you are making stuff up about these jobs being given mostly to black people, but even so, maybe it's because they have more experience fighting for inclusion and representation than say, I don't know, YOU?


You're kidding, right? These jobs literally have some combination of D, E, and I in the job title and they were/are almost exclusively occupied by AA, with a handful of Hispanics, and pretty much no Asians. Literally go to any corporation's website or school district, if not individual school. If you don't believe me, type in Google, "VP of Inclusion" or "Chief Diversity Officer" + "[fill in the blank corporation or school]" and see for yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.


Have you met MAGAs?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees


Give me one example of schools using race as a factor when hiring someone or extending a scholarship to someone. Crickets.... schools are one place where racism isn't a factor. School age children haven't yet learned how to be racist at an early age. Perhaps us adults could learn something from our young children.





Montgomery county uses 4 criteria when analyzing school zone boundaries. The primary one is diversity.


Bologna!


“ Our Board Policy, FAA, Educational Facilities Planning, identifies four main factors for consideration when establishing and making changes to school boundaries. These include:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Geography
Stability of school assignments over time
Facility utilization”

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/boundary-study/



Drawing up school boundaries doesn't include or exclude certain children from going to public school based on race. It simply determines WHERE they go to school. No child is being denied public school due to the color of their skin and no one is getting hired or fired because of their skin color and those things are relevant to this topic.


What about those tens of thousands of six-figure DEI management and school admin jobs that literally popped up overnight during covid? They seemed to be pretty much AA exclusive positions. And since many of these jobs never existed before, what was the relevant work experience needed to qualify for the position?


Education experience, leading a team, administration and project management. DUh. And I think you are making stuff up about these jobs being given mostly to black people, but even so, maybe it's because they have more experience fighting for inclusion and representation than say, I don't know, YOU?


You're kidding, right? These jobs literally have some combination of D, E, and I in the job title and they were/are almost exclusively occupied by AA, with a handful of Hispanics, and pretty much no Asians. Literally go to any corporation's website or school district, if not individual school. If you don't believe me, type in Google, "VP of Inclusion" or "Chief Diversity Officer" + "[fill in the blank corporation or school]" and see for yourself.


Lol... there are no jobs that were created out of thin air titled "VP of Inclusion" or "Chief Diversity Officer". Turn off your fake news channel and stop spreading lies.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.


The AA students associations are in fact open to everyone. There were always a few non Asians in the membership. There is no "Asians only" requirement.


Seems like the name alone creates exclusions. If someone made a White Girl student association do you think a Black Man is going to feel welcome even if they claim no White or female requirement? DEI people always claim inclusion but create nothing but exclusion.


Okay, this argument is on its face nonsense, but let's just look at the philosophy here. How is ANYONE being hurt by not participating in a WOMEN in STEM club or an International club?
There is no harm, so why the frack do you care?


I don’t care beyond the fact that if my White brother wanted to start a White Redneck Hunting Club the Black vegan women from the STEM club would be the first to oppose it. Free speech only works if it works both ways. It’s not like that anymore. It has to exist as anything goes or it won’t work. That’s what you fail to understand.


Well, if you hadn't discriminated against us for say, 400 years, maybe this wouldn't be necessary.


"You" and "us"?

That lens is exactly the point of contention.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.


Have you met MAGAs?


DP.

Sure, my brown MAGA FIL for starters.

He absolutely believes in the "be inclusive to everyone" approach.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.



This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.


You’re an idiot.
Project 3025 & Trump want to go back to the America of 1950. They have said this. They want to roll back the laws for women’s rights, minority rights, disability rights, LGBTQ+ rights….basically white men go back to be in charge completely. They tell people lies and use half truths to justify it.

When a privileged group has it privilege removed and they are placed on equal ground, to the privileged it seems like they have lost rights.
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I mean, yeah, that is it. ^^SO many white people, white men, are feeling the loss of their exclusive privilege that they cannot comprehend that these so-called DEI hires are on actual footing with them.

Their network isn't assuring things as it did in the past, and instead of looking inward at their own shortcomings or the broader culture that led them to believe they can just coast, they scream outwards at everyone.

It really does make me sad.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.



This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.


You’re an idiot.
Project 3025 & Trump want to go back to the America of 1950. They have said this. They want to roll back the laws for women’s rights, minority rights, disability rights, LGBTQ+ rights….basically white men go back to be in charge completely. They tell people lies and use half truths to justify it.

When a privileged group has it privilege removed and they are placed on equal ground, to the privileged it seems like they have lost rights.


DP.

Unfortunately, the bolded is NOT the perception (or the actual promise) of DEI in many cases.

The vast majority of America agrees with an "equal opportunity" approach.

The leading voices of DEI did not focus on making that case (see, eg, the focus on "equity" rather than "equality"), which is part of the reason for the current backlash.
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Anonymous wrote:I mean, yeah, that is it. ^^SO many white people, white men, are feeling the loss of their exclusive privilege that they cannot comprehend that these so-called DEI hires are on actual footing with them.

Their network isn't assuring things as it did in the past, and instead of looking inward at their own shortcomings or the broader culture that led them to believe they can just coast, they scream outwards at everyone.

It really does make me sad.


This is just not at all what I hear/see from "white people".

It's a silly caricature that avoids addressing the substance of the issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.


You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.


Have you met MAGAs?


Unfortunately, yes.
My husband has wealthy white Southern parents. I was well aware before MAGA that these Republicans have been going MAGA for awhile. The “Heritage not Hate” justification 30 years ago for keeping the Confederate flag up on top of the South Carolina state house? The same Confederate flag that was put up in the 1960s to object to the Civil Rights Bill?
If you talked to any Republican back then they kept claiming “it’s history!” knowing darn well they were giving a middle finger to African Americans….
This white MAGA/far right Republicans/ radical Christian group will tell you one thing to save face, and laugh behind your back and do another. They have been this way for hundreds of years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees


Give me one example of schools using race as a factor when hiring someone or extending a scholarship to someone. Crickets.... schools are one place where racism isn't a factor. School age children haven't yet learned how to be racist at an early age. Perhaps us adults could learn something from our young children.





Montgomery county uses 4 criteria when analyzing school zone boundaries. The primary one is diversity.


Bologna!


“ Our Board Policy, FAA, Educational Facilities Planning, identifies four main factors for consideration when establishing and making changes to school boundaries. These include:

Demographic characteristics of student population
Geography
Stability of school assignments over time
Facility utilization”

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/boundary-study/



Drawing up school boundaries doesn't include or exclude certain children from going to public school based on race. It simply determines WHERE they go to school. No child is being denied public school due to the color of their skin and no one is getting hired or fired because of their skin color and those things are relevant to this topic.


What about those tens of thousands of six-figure DEI management and school admin jobs that literally popped up overnight during covid? They seemed to be pretty much AA exclusive positions. And since many of these jobs never existed before, what was the relevant work experience needed to qualify for the position?


You are a dense bigot. The only surge in education jobs during Covid was investing in building the technology capacity for virtual classes and helping students and parents be able to have access to it.

There was no Covid surge in Black jobs. They were already there, you had just ignored them. A lot of education and health care and local government services jobs helping people with bureaucratic and administrative details are filled by Black women, but that is because most men and white women don’t want service jobs dealing with the general public all day every day.
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