“Safe” Federal positions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

This isn’t exactly confidence inspiring though if you know your life is about to be made very miserable in order to get your paycheck.

I’m in a position exempt from VERA/fork/hiring freeze. I don’t think I’ll get RIF’d. But because we lack much office space, it’s looking like we’ll get moved far way that I could have a 3-4 hour daily commute (50 miles within the DC area can be 1.5-2 hours each way.

So I’m “safe” but my life is going to be misery until I can either get another job or someone puts a stop to this madness. Who knows how long that will take. And I’m one of the “lucky” ones.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/doge-musk-goals/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

This isn’t exactly confidence inspiring though if you know your life is about to be made very miserable in order to get your paycheck.

I’m in a position exempt from VERA/fork/hiring freeze. I don’t think I’ll get RIF’d. But because we lack much office space, it’s looking like we’ll get moved far way that I could have a 3-4 hour daily commute (50 miles within the DC area can be 1.5-2 hours each way.

So I’m “safe” but my life is going to be misery until I can either get another job or someone puts a stop to this madness. Who knows how long that will take. And I’m one of the “lucky” ones.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/doge-musk-goals/

And?

Elon and crew do not care about your personal situation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel reasonably safe as a criminal AUSA. We perform a core constitutional function and there’s really no fat to cut. Every attorney in my office works 60 hours a week, save for a handful of people in highly niche roles.

Wait until you prosecute the “wrong” case.

+1 all the J6 and Jack Smith attys who were career prosecutors

I disagree with it, but the firing of Jack Smith's team is sui generis. You can't compare that to DOGE's buyout attempt or firing probationary employees.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't be sure at all. Trump has disparaged wounded vets, calling them "losers", and disgraced Arlington Cemetery. He has a hatred towards people with disabilities, and is happy to cancel funding that they require to live their lives in the community, and my guess is he won't treat disabled veterans better.

This is what worries (and sickens) me. I'm a DoD clinician who works almost exclusively with wounded warriors. You know, the guys who had their legs blown off or crushed in combat or combat training. I would have thought I was safe but then I remembered the contempt Dump has for these men and women. https://www.militaryonesource.mil/benefits/wounded-warrior-programs/

As an aside, it's incorrect that a large percentage of VA staff are Fork-exempt.

[Anonymous]

The problem is that the vast majority of Fed employees just do not have the expertise that can do the same job in the private sector. I am willing to bet that many will have difficulties getting jobs in the private sector for the same pay.

I work in IT infrastructure at the DOT, and almost all the technical work is being done by contractors. Almost all the Fed employees from GS-12 to GS-15 are there for oversight. They don't have much technical expertise to get the day-to-day operations done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel reasonably safe as a criminal AUSA. We perform a core constitutional function and there’s really no fat to cut. Every attorney in my office works 60 hours a week, save for a handful of people in highly niche roles.

Wow. As someone who’s seen you in action on grand jury duty, I applaud you all. You do great work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

They’ve been operating with impunity so far and not following any “process”. Why do you think that’s going to change?

They just had their Fork offer put on hold, and it is likely to be ruled illegal on Monday.

They will push as far as they can. But we do still have some institutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

They’ve been operating with impunity so far and not following any “process”. Why do you think that’s going to change?

They just had their Fork offer put on hold, and it is likely to be ruled illegal on Monday.

They will push as far as they can. But we do still have some institutions.

If Fork is banned they are going to take revenge using RIFs. We are bot going to get out of this unscathed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

This isn’t exactly confidence inspiring though if you know your life is about to be made very miserable in order to get your paycheck.

I’m in a position exempt from VERA/fork/hiring freeze. I don’t think I’ll get RIF’d. But because we lack much office space, it’s looking like we’ll get moved far way that I could have a 3-4 hour daily commute (50 miles within the DC area can be 1.5-2 hours each way.

So I’m “safe” but my life is going to be misery until I can either get another job or someone puts a stop to this madness. Who knows how long that will take. And I’m one of the “lucky” ones.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/08/doge-musk-goals/

And?

Elon and crew do not care about your personal situation

Yes we are all quite aware of this, try to keep up.

The point is that knowing you are safe from a RIF is not entirely comforting right now because there are other ways to oust people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

They’ve been operating with impunity so far and not following any “process”. Why do you think that’s going to change?

They just had their Fork offer put on hold, and it is likely to be ruled illegal on Monday.

They will push as far as they can. But we do still have some institutions.

If Fork is banned they are going to take revenge using RIFs. We are bot going to get out of this unscathed

RIFs have a lot of regulations that go along with them. They will take time. Slowing the process down is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tsa agents. Trump won't want long lines at airports. At least in the short term...baggage screening is a pretty plausible AI use case and there might be other ways to reduce the need for staff.

Maybe BOP prison guards. Trump seems to like the death penalty.

I could definitely see more privately run prisons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't heard a lot about DoD.

That’s because we’re preparing for war with China.

I hope we are prepared in time.

[Anonymous]

There is no logic to the purge, so no one can answer this with confidence.

(General rule of thumb : the more you are helping people, especially the disadvantaged, the more the billionaires will think your position is expendable)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

He thinks most jobs are either not needed or can be done by machine or AI. No doubt that is true for some things, but good luck finding machines that can fight fires, provide medical care, interpret and apply laws in a way that will withstand review in court, provide physical security for borders and buildings, conduct scientific trials and studies, etc.

Elon thinks all government jobs involve stamping requests or pressing y/n on claims.

Where is there any evidence that he can do it cheaper with AI, assuming energy resources can support that. Also, this has been said a million times, but Fed salaries are a de minimus part of the budget. Very little savings there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

They’ve been operating with impunity so far and not following any “process”. Why do you think that’s going to change?

They just had their Fork offer put on hold, and it is likely to be ruled illegal on Monday.

They will push as far as they can. But we do still have some institutions.

If Fork is banned they are going to take revenge using RIFs. We are bot going to get out of this unscathed

RIFs have a lot of regulations that go along with them. They will take time. Slowing the process down is good.

But can't they take out an entire career area of an agency using a RIF, as was done with DEI folk, instead of using agency wide RIFs? I would imagine the former would take less time and be more damaging.