“Safe” Federal positions

[Anonymous]

Elon will do whatever he wants—that’s the strategy. Move quickly and break lots of rules. He knows the courts can’t keep up. What’s already done becomes extremely difficult to undo and could take years to resolve in the legal system. Meanwhile he’s accomplished his objective of quickly reducing the number of federal employees.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

He thinks most jobs are either not needed or can be done by machine or AI. No doubt that is true for some things, but good luck finding machines that can fight fires, provide medical care, interpret and apply laws in a way that will withstand review in court, provide physical security for borders and buildings, conduct scientific trials and studies, etc.

Elon thinks all government jobs involve stamping requests or pressing y/n on claims.

Where is there any evidence that he can do it cheaper with AI, assuming energy resources can support that. Also, this has been said a million times, but Fed salaries are a de minimus part of the budget. Very little savings there.

DP. He doesn’t care about savings he cares that he can try and charge the Fed gov to use Grok.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

WTF?! I say this as someone who thinks we could pare down the gov. a little bit, I admit there is a lot of fraud waste and abuse but 75% is insane and will collapse the county. This would be catastrophic.

I wish I could get citizenship in another county right now.

Take a deep breath. Despite his talk, he is going to have to follow the process. He can't just fire people without having cause. RIF takes time and requires following the regs.

That's why he's working to hard to make working conditions as miserable as possible -- he wants people to leave of their own accord.

They’ve been operating with impunity so far and not following any “process”. Why do you think that’s going to change?

They just had their Fork offer put on hold, and it is likely to be ruled illegal on Monday.

They will push as far as they can. But we do still have some institutions.

If Fork is banned they are going to take revenge using RIFs. We are bot going to get out of this unscathed

RIFs have a lot of regulations that go along with them. They will take time. Slowing the process down is good.

And OPM does not have the authority to order agencies to impose RIFs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elon, a couple of days ago, told an event of JP Morgan's 200 largest clients that he intends on cutting 3/4 of the federal workforce.

Plan accordingly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-speaks-jpmorgan-event-attended-by-ceo-dimon-source-says-2025-02-07/

He thinks most jobs are either not needed or can be done by machine or AI. No doubt that is true for some things, but good luck finding machines that can fight fires, provide medical care, interpret and apply laws in a way that will withstand review in court, provide physical security for borders and buildings, conduct scientific trials and studies, etc.

Elon thinks all government jobs involve stamping requests or pressing y/n on claims.

Where is there any evidence that he can do it cheaper with AI, assuming energy resources can support that. Also, this has been said a million times, but Fed salaries are a de minimus part of the budget. Very little savings there.

Of course there isn’t evidence, but he isn’t looking for any. Truth and accuracy are not exactly his buzzwords.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elon will do whatever he wants—that’s the strategy. Move quickly and break lots of rules. He knows the courts can’t keep up. What’s already done becomes extremely difficult to undo and could take years to resolve in the legal system. Meanwhile he’s accomplished his objective of quickly reducing the number of federal employees.

He really hasn’t. Other than firing the J6 and Trump
Prosecutors, which wasn’t Leon but DOJ, all are still employed and getting paid.

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Anonymous wrote:New Washington Post article - the goal is to replace the human workforce with machines

https://wapo.st/3WRYJOQ

But long term, how does that pan out? The majority of people will be unemployed and have nothing?

So you didn't take ECON 101?

No, I didn’t, so how about you answer my question instead of being an A$$

New technology has constantly been invented over the last 200 years. Technology doesn't send humans off to live in mud huts, it makes workers more productive.

[Anonymous]

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I wouldn't be sure at all. Trump has disparaged wounded vets, calling them "losers", and disgraced Arlington Cemetery. He has a hatred towards people with disabilities, and is happy to cancel funding that they require to live their lives in the community, and my guess is he won't treat disabled veterans better.

This is what worries (and sickens) me. I'm a DoD clinician who works almost exclusively with wounded warriors. You know, the guys who had their legs blown off or crushed in combat or combat training. I would have thought I was safe but then I remembered the contempt Dump has for these men and women. https://www.militaryonesource.mil/benefits/wounded-warrior-programs/

As an aside, it's incorrect that a large percentage of VA staff are Fork-exempt.

I suspect that they will come after us soon enough - military health - providers, staff and patients, especially retirees and medically retired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that the vast majority of Fed employees just do not have the expertise that can do the same job in the private sector. I am willing to bet that many will have difficulties getting jobs in the private sector for the same pay.

I work in IT infrastructure at the DOT, and almost all the technical work is being done by contractors. Almost all the Fed employees from GS-12 to GS-15 are there for oversight. They don't have much technical expertise to get the day-to-day operations done.

There aren't enough jobs. Lots of private companies are doing RTO and quiet or forced layoffs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DOD at Walter Reid. Feel safer than my counterparts at NIH (where I started my career) but not “safe”.

I would not feel safe at WR. We fully expect to lose our insurance. WR is struggling to get and keep patients. They don't have enough staff but keep spending a fortune building so most patients are referred off base. I think they'll privatize it all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New Washington Post article - the goal is to replace the human workforce with machines

https://wapo.st/3WRYJOQ

But long term, how does that pan out? The majority of people will be unemployed and have nothing?

The next phase is Universal Basic Income, by which Musk and Thiel decide how much each unemployed peon deserves to receive. More money for each additional white Christian baby. Welcome to Hitler's America!

[Anonymous]

SSA is at its lowest staffing levels in 50 years (as a total number, not per capita), as the Boomers become disabled and eligible to retire. And the low staffing is not on purpose. We are 17/17 in FEVS and can’t retain staff. And when we hire it takes two years for even an experienced attorney to get enough competence that someone doesn’t have to check behaved all work.

A large number of SSA positions (like 80%)— including mine) were announced as exempt from FORK a couple of days the first email. That decision was made by DOGE/Trump and was not based on an agency request. Most of SSA is also not eligible for VERA. And SSA was exempt from the hiring freeze. We are pulling people off of 1+ year backlogs so have them tackle 19+ month backlogs. And yes, even MAGA notices and calls their Reps.

Things could change. But right now, it feels like most of SSA is relatively safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SSA is at its lowest staffing levels in 50 years (as a total number, not per capita), as the Boomers become disabled and eligible to retire. And the low staffing is not on purpose. We are 17/17 in FEVS and can’t retain staff. And when we hire it takes two years for even an experienced attorney to get enough competence that someone doesn’t have to check behaved all work.

A large number of SSA positions (like 80%)— including mine) were announced as exempt from FORK a couple of days the first email. That decision was made by DOGE/Trump and was not based on an agency request. Most of SSA is also not eligible for VERA. And SSA was exempt from the hiring freeze. We are pulling people off of 1+ year backlogs so have them tackle 19+ month backlogs. And yes, even MAGA notices and calls their Reps.

Things could change. But right now, it feels like most of SSA is relatively safe.

Safe from RIF for now maybe, but not safe from being collateral damage if we all get shipped off to Baltimore. Not to mention all the negative stuff that may start happening to all employees like messing with our pension, job protections, health benefits, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New Washington Post article - the goal is to replace the human workforce with machines

https://wapo.st/3WRYJOQ

But long term, how does that pan out? The majority of people will be unemployed and have nothing?

The next phase is Universal Basic Income, by which Musk and Thiel decide how much each unemployed peon deserves to receive. More money for each additional white Christian baby. Welcome to Hitler's America!

You sound like the reason Trump had to start an Anti-Christian hate campaign.

[Anonymous]

This is where all the money is for them, over at DOD. They will come at you with hatchets, use AI to do your jobs, and suck up all the contracts for AI to provide those services to DOD for themselves. If you are at DOD or a historic contractor of DOD (not more recent, like palantir, aws, musk,etc) I would make a lot of contingency plans.

If you are a military officer, prepare for use of force domestically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Washington Post article - the goal is to replace the human workforce with machines

https://wapo.st/3WRYJOQ

But long term, how does that pan out? The majority of people will be unemployed and have nothing?

The next phase is Universal Basic Income, by which Musk and Thiel decide how much each unemployed peon deserves to receive. More money for each additional white Christian baby. Welcome to Hitler's America!

You sound like the reason Trump had to start an Anti-Christian hate campaign.

No hate like Christian love