Reid email , protecting immigrants

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Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Any principals or admin care to share this “clear guidance”?

Here it is. Sounds like FCPS plans to cooperate with ICE.

“ “We’re advising staff so they know how to handle these situations,” McElveen said. “If ICE agents come to a school, staff will take them to the front office, make sure they are who they say they are, and that they have warrants,” he said. “If they don’t, they’ll be sent away.””


https://annandaletoday.com/fcps-vows-to-protect-students-if-ice-agents-come-to-schools/

Yes that’s pretty much it. The school isn’t a sanctuary anymore and admin have to cooperate if they come with the correct paperwork- but I think they need to call the region to help verify.

I understand why Reid wasn’t going to say that in her email and cause more panic. I still don’t think it means they will be ripping 5 year olds from the classroom and I hope they focus on the criminals and take care of it outside of the school building.

On another note, our school should see a decrease in new arrivals from other countries right?

But Ryan came out and said it clearly. He was not supposed to do this. The rest of the board is not happy, especially Anderssen.

Reid is trying to pretend in public that the “Trust Policy” rolled out in 2022 is still in effect. It’s not. Schools are preparing to cooperate if ICE agents show up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Any principals or admin care to share this “clear guidance”?

Here it is. Sounds like FCPS plans to cooperate with ICE.

“ “We’re advising staff so they know how to handle these situations,” McElveen said. “If ICE agents come to a school, staff will take them to the front office, make sure they are who they say they are, and that they have warrants,” he said. “If they don’t, they’ll be sent away.””


https://annandaletoday.com/fcps-vows-to-protect-students-if-ice-agents-come-to-schools/

Yes that’s pretty much it. The school isn’t a sanctuary anymore and admin have to cooperate if they come with the correct paperwork- but I think they need to call the region to help verify.

I understand why Reid wasn’t going to say that in her email and cause more panic. I still don’t think it means they will be ripping 5 year olds from the classroom and I hope they focus on the criminals and take care of it outside of the school building.

On another note, our school should see a decrease in new arrivals from other countries right?

But Ryan came out and said it clearly. He was not supposed to do this. The rest of the board is not happy, especially Anderssen.

Reid is trying to pretend in public that the “Trust Policy” rolled out in 2022 is still in effect. It’s not. Schools are preparing to cooperate if ICE agents show up.

Only if they have judicial warrants. ICE can't just go into classrooms and start questioning people.

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What exactly does an ICE warrant entail?

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"ICE agents need a judicial warrant to enter private areas. But ICE agents usually have what is called an administrative warrant, “which doesn’t have the same power to permit them entry” as a judicial warrant, according to Gelatt.

Administrative warrants are issued by a federal agency such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or ICE itself, and will be signed by an immigration officer such as an ICE agent or immigration judge, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide.

Administrative warrants do not grant ICE agents entry into private spaces, but they do allow agents to stop, question and arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws in public areas, Sapochnick Law Firm, an immigration law firm, says.

A judicial warrant, on the other hand, is the same kind of warrant police officers use for criminal searches.

Judicial warrants, which are issued by a court and signed by a judge or magistrate, will specify the location to be searched, the time period the search must take place, describe the place or person to be searched and describe the things to be seized, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide."
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/immigration/ice-churches-schools-hospitals-immigration-enforcement-under-trump/536-cfefc119-41d5-4384-b303-31989ad61eea

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Anonymous wrote:"ICE agents need a judicial warrant to enter private areas. But ICE agents usually have what is called an administrative warrant, “which doesn’t have the same power to permit them entry” as a judicial warrant, according to Gelatt.

Administrative warrants are issued by a federal agency such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or ICE itself, and will be signed by an immigration officer such as an ICE agent or immigration judge, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide.

Administrative warrants do not grant ICE agents entry into private spaces, but they do allow agents to stop, question and arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws in public areas, Sapochnick Law Firm, an immigration law firm, says.

A judicial warrant, on the other hand, is the same kind of warrant police officers use for criminal searches.

Judicial warrants, which are issued by a court and signed by a judge or magistrate, will specify the location to be searched, the time period the search must take place, describe the place or person to be searched and describe the things to be seized, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide."
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/immigration/ice-churches-schools-hospitals-immigration-enforcement-under-trump/536-cfefc119-41d5-4384-b303-31989ad61eea

This gives no indication whether country/state government property is a "private space".

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

Sadly, allegedly, there are also kids reporting to their teachers that they will kill themselves if others don’t accept their gender identities, or because this or the other. Unfortunately, kids face all kinds of issues, challenges, and traumas. That has always existed. What is new as of recently, however, is the perspective some kids have in life. They seem to have been robed of any sense of hope, self-worth, true identity, and resilience.

The pain these kids who fear deportation along with their parents is very real, but so is their reality. As for the alleged teachers and counselors at FCPS, besides perpetuating on the feeling of hopelessness and helplessness, this is the time to rise above that and besides lending an ear, a word of comfort, etc., they will have to talk to these students about resilience, strength, the future, their self-worth independent from their geographic location, or color of their skin, or gender. These kids need to hear that things will work out fine in the end, though it may not seem like it at this moment. That adversity through resilience can become growth. That they have their entire future ahead of them. A good starting point would be using role models of people who have risen through the worst of adversity and yet not only survive, but excelled. There are many examples, but the most recent one that comes to mind is JD Vance. Of course there are others, such as Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or the many women in Latin America who became presidents of their countries 14 times altogether!

While we can’t change reality for these kids -or any other kid- we, as adults, can role model how to cope and make the best out of things we can’t change.

I agree that they need to hear that all is not lost even if they do get deported. They are resilient and can thrive anywhere.

This generation should learn you can't have everything you want and certainly not if you or your parents have broken the law to get it.

Go to Guatemala and prove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Any principals or admin care to share this “clear guidance”?

Here it is. Sounds like FCPS plans to cooperate with ICE.

“ “We’re advising staff so they know how to handle these situations,” McElveen said. “If ICE agents come to a school, staff will take them to the front office, make sure they are who they say they are, and that they have warrants,” he said. “If they don’t, they’ll be sent away.””


https://annandaletoday.com/fcps-vows-to-protect-students-if-ice-agents-come-to-schools/

Yes that’s pretty much it. The school isn’t a sanctuary anymore and admin have to cooperate if they come with the correct paperwork- but I think they need to call the region to help verify.

I understand why Reid wasn’t going to say that in her email and cause more panic. I still don’t think it means they will be ripping 5 year olds from the classroom and I hope they focus on the criminals and take care of it outside of the school building.

On another note, our school should see a decrease in new arrivals from other countries right?

But Ryan came out and said it clearly. He was not supposed to do this. The rest of the board is not happy, especially Anderssen.

Reid is trying to pretend in public that the “Trust Policy” rolled out in 2022 is still in effect. It’s not. Schools are preparing to cooperate if ICE agents show up.

Only if they have judicial warrants. ICE can't just go into classrooms and start questioning people.

ICE does NOT have judicial warrants. An ICE warrant (specifically an administrative warrant) doesn’t require a judge’s signature. It’s typically issued by ICE agents themselves, based on their investigation and the belief that someone is in the U.S. unlawfully or has violated immigration laws.

While ICE agents don’t need a judge’s approval for their warrants, there is still some oversight. For instance, ICE officers need to have probable cause to issue an administrative warrant, and the individual’s immigration history or status would typically be the focus. That said, because it’s an administrative process (rather than criminal law), the legal standards are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

I missed the part where that's my problem.

My kid certainly isn't suffering because some teen is sad their parents screwed up.

Yes, we know you are a heartless moron. You voted for Trump.

But you’re also pro-life, right? Right?????? Or does that only go as far as my vagina and uterus. Once the kid is here then you don’t give a shit?

I’m asking this as well. And are they only pro life for American white babies?

Huh?
Pro-life only applies to fetuses. Babies have original sin and deserve no empathy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"ICE agents need a judicial warrant to enter private areas. But ICE agents usually have what is called an administrative warrant, “which doesn’t have the same power to permit them entry” as a judicial warrant, according to Gelatt.

Administrative warrants are issued by a federal agency such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or ICE itself, and will be signed by an immigration officer such as an ICE agent or immigration judge, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide.

Administrative warrants do not grant ICE agents entry into private spaces, but they do allow agents to stop, question and arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws in public areas, Sapochnick Law Firm, an immigration law firm, says.

A judicial warrant, on the other hand, is the same kind of warrant police officers use for criminal searches.

Judicial warrants, which are issued by a court and signed by a judge or magistrate, will specify the location to be searched, the time period the search must take place, describe the place or person to be searched and describe the things to be seized, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide."
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/immigration/ice-churches-schools-hospitals-immigration-enforcement-under-trump/536-cfefc119-41d5-4384-b303-31989ad61eea

This gives no indication whether country/state government property is a "private space".

Schools are not private spaces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

It’s very UN-clear to me what kind of warrant it will take for an FCPS school to hand over a student to ICE. Parents need to know this before Monday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

I missed the part where that's my problem.

My kid certainly isn't suffering because some teen is sad their parents screwed up.

Yes, we know you are a heartless moron. You voted for Trump.

But you’re also pro-life, right? Right?????? Or does that only go as far as my vagina and uterus. Once the kid is here then you don’t give a shit?

I’m asking this as well. And are they only pro life for American white babies?

Huh?
Pro-life only applies to fetuses. Babies have original sin and deserve no empathy.

Sarcasm right?

[Anonymous]

New Jersey is directing their schools to only release students if the warrant is sign by a judge. Administrative warrants will not be sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Jersey is directing their schools to only release students if the warrant is sign by a judge. Administrative warrants will not be sufficient.

Source: https://www.nj.gov/education/security/studentrights/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"ICE agents need a judicial warrant to enter private areas. But ICE agents usually have what is called an administrative warrant, “which doesn’t have the same power to permit them entry” as a judicial warrant, according to Gelatt.

Administrative warrants are issued by a federal agency such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or ICE itself, and will be signed by an immigration officer such as an ICE agent or immigration judge, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide.

Administrative warrants do not grant ICE agents entry into private spaces, but they do allow agents to stop, question and arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws in public areas, Sapochnick Law Firm, an immigration law firm, says.

A judicial warrant, on the other hand, is the same kind of warrant police officers use for criminal searches.

Judicial warrants, which are issued by a court and signed by a judge or magistrate, will specify the location to be searched, the time period the search must take place, describe the place or person to be searched and describe the things to be seized, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide."
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/immigration/ice-churches-schools-hospitals-immigration-enforcement-under-trump/536-cfefc119-41d5-4384-b303-31989ad61eea

Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) in Virginia are public schools, not private spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:The closing line "We will remain in the light" is unnecessarily passive aggressive by implicitly stating that that new Trump policies represent darkness. This criticism will be interpreted as insubordination by policy makers and damage professional relationships with those implementing new directives.

Beyond its weird political implications, the phrase is just strange. Parents need clear statements rather than abstract language that’s oddly religious.

Meh, I've seen virtue signalling before and this is mild.