Reid email , protecting immigrants

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

There have been a steady stream of kids showing up from the border over the last 4 years. They've been taking up time and resources from American kids for a long time. There is no way they're walking here from Central America and other far flung places without experiencing and seeing significant trauma along the way. Especially for the girls. All of this requires support.

Last I heard Fairfax county public School are a school not a meals, daycare or counseling service. The perversion of it into some social program has caused the core mission to be out on the back burner to advanced liberal social agendas.

this is a perfect example of the lack of compassion which is why we are in this Trump mess now.

Or perhaps there is compassion fatigue exacerbated by your relentless scolding.

We are the most generous nation on earth.

No other country spends as much on illegal aliens and their kids as we do.

Countries in europe are electing self identified nazis in response to their immigration issues, we elected a buffoon.
I'll take the buffooon over the nazi.

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

There have been a steady stream of kids showing up from the border over the last 4 years. They've been taking up time and resources from American kids for a long time. There is no way they're walking here from Central America and other far flung places without experiencing and seeing significant trauma along the way. Especially for the girls. All of this requires support.

Last I heard Fairfax county public School are a school not a meals, daycare or counseling service. The perversion of it into some social program has caused the core mission to be out on the back burner to advanced liberal social agendas.

This is one of the many reasons that I quit working in FCPS.

FCPS has lost their collective minds and way and need to decide if their mission is to educate students or become a social service umbrella agency.

This is education mission creep.

The education departments teaching the teachers used to teach teachers how to teach. Now they are teaching teachers how to heal the world or some shit like that.

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

There have been a steady stream of kids showing up from the border over the last 4 years. They've been taking up time and resources from American kids for a long time. There is no way they're walking here from Central America and other far flung places without experiencing and seeing significant trauma along the way. Especially for the girls. All of this requires support.

Last I heard Fairfax county public School are a school not a meals, daycare or counseling service. The perversion of it into some social program has caused the core mission to be out on the back burner to advanced liberal social agendas.

This is one of the many reasons that I quit working in FCPS.

FCPS has lost their collective minds and way and need to decide if their mission is to educate students or become a social service umbrella agency.

This is education mission creep.

The education departments teaching the teachers used to teach teachers how to teach. Now they are teaching teachers how to heal the world or some shit like that.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

Stop making stories up.

Not made up. I was with some people last night who work in FCPS high schools and this is what they are seeing and hearing. There are a lot of kids in crisis for various reasons, and now here’s a new one.

People need to develop some resilience

Not exactly a realistic plan for teenage brains. You can’t just snap your fngers and make it so.

I know some of you can’t understand this because you lack empathy, but most people who work in schools WANT to help kids who are struggling regardless of whether the district has “tasked” them with this as a “social service” or not. Unlike you they care about the kids. Maybe if you took any time to talk with them you would understand how protective they feel over the vulnerable kids. They’ve probably helped your kid during the school day in some way you aren’t even aware of. Your little right wing fantasy land is not reality and you don’t have as much control over this as you think.

I know you can'tunderstand this because you lack logic and reason, but the job of most of the people who work in schools is not social worker. Spending all your time and effort caring about some kids to the exclusion of kids you think don't really need your help is blowing up the mission for a side quest.

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

I missed the part where that's my problem.

My kid certainly isn't suffering because some teen is sad their parents screwed up.

Yes, we know you are a heartless moron. You voted for Trump.

But you’re also pro-life, right? Right?????? Or does that only go as far as my vagina and uterus. Once the kid is here then you don’t give a shit?

I’m asking this as well. And are they only pro life for American white babies?

I'm pretty sure they are not in favor of you killiong your babies after they are born either.

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Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

You can't instruct principals to break the law. If ICWE shows up, the principal had to cooperate. They cannot be punished or admonished for cooperating

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Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Agreed, just tell people what the guidance is. This email is almost content free.

The instructions were almost certainly illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Any principals or admin care to share this “clear guidance”?

Here it is. Sounds like FCPS plans to cooperate with ICE.

“ “We’re advising staff so they know how to handle these situations,” McElveen said. “If ICE agents come to a school, staff will take them to the front office, make sure they are who they say they are, and that they have warrants,” he said. “If they don’t, they’ll be sent away.””


https://annandaletoday.com/fcps-vows-to-protect-students-if-ice-agents-come-to-schools/

Yes that’s pretty much it. The school isn’t a sanctuary anymore and admin have to cooperate if they come with the correct paperwork- but I think they need to call the region to help verify.

I understand why Reid wasn’t going to say that in her email and cause more panic. I still don’t think it means they will be ripping 5 year olds from the classroom and I hope they focus on the criminals and take care of it outside of the school building.

On another note, our school should see a decrease in new arrivals from other countries right?

But Ryan came out and said it clearly. He was not supposed to do this. The rest of the board is not happy, especially Anderssen.

Reid is trying to pretend in public that the “Trust Policy” rolled out in 2022 is still in effect. It’s not. Schools are preparing to cooperate if ICE agents show up.

Only if they have judicial warrants. ICE can't just go into classrooms and start questioning people.

There will be exactly one child ripped from their classroom in America before every judge in the country stops issuing warrants to enter schools.

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Anonymous wrote:"ICE agents need a judicial warrant to enter private areas. But ICE agents usually have what is called an administrative warrant, “which doesn’t have the same power to permit them entry” as a judicial warrant, according to Gelatt.

Administrative warrants are issued by a federal agency such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or ICE itself, and will be signed by an immigration officer such as an ICE agent or immigration judge, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide.

Administrative warrants do not grant ICE agents entry into private spaces, but they do allow agents to stop, question and arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws in public areas, Sapochnick Law Firm, an immigration law firm, says.

A judicial warrant, on the other hand, is the same kind of warrant police officers use for criminal searches.

Judicial warrants, which are issued by a court and signed by a judge or magistrate, will specify the location to be searched, the time period the search must take place, describe the place or person to be searched and describe the things to be seized, according to the Project South Institute for the Elimination of Poverty and Genocide."
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/verify/immigration/ice-churches-schools-hospitals-immigration-enforcement-under-trump/536-cfefc119-41d5-4384-b303-31989ad61eea

This gives no indication whether country/state government property is a "private space".

Schools are not private spaces.

It's not a public space either.

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What percentage of FCPS students are either themselves here illegally or their parents are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a word twice in once sentence does not magically transform something.


“We have CLEAR plans in place to respond to the shifting federal policies and our principals have received CLEAR direction from me on the expected response should a federal law enforcement official come to a school.”

Using “clear” twice in this sentence undermines her message. It feels like an attempt to overcompensate. It does not sound credible and trustworthy.

If she is following the law, why doesn't she just say what the guidance to the principals is?

Any principals or admin care to share this “clear guidance”?

Here it is. Sounds like FCPS plans to cooperate with ICE.

“ “We’re advising staff so they know how to handle these situations,” McElveen said. “If ICE agents come to a school, staff will take them to the front office, make sure they are who they say they are, and that they have warrants,” he said. “If they don’t, they’ll be sent away.””


https://annandaletoday.com/fcps-vows-to-protect-students-if-ice-agents-come-to-schools/

Yes that’s pretty much it. The school isn’t a sanctuary anymore and admin have to cooperate if they come with the correct paperwork- but I think they need to call the region to help verify.

I understand why Reid wasn’t going to say that in her email and cause more panic. I still don’t think it means they will be ripping 5 year olds from the classroom and I hope they focus on the criminals and take care of it outside of the school building.

On another note, our school should see a decrease in new arrivals from other countries right?

But Ryan came out and said it clearly. He was not supposed to do this. The rest of the board is not happy, especially Anderssen.

Reid is trying to pretend in public that the “Trust Policy” rolled out in 2022 is still in effect. It’s not. Schools are preparing to cooperate if ICE agents show up.

Only if they have judicial warrants. ICE can't just go into classrooms and start questioning people.

There will be exactly one child ripped from their classroom in America before every judge in the country stops issuing warrants to enter schools.

IF ICE should come to a school, I suspect it will be for someone who has committed violent crimes. They will not be coming for Kindergarteners or children of deportees unless the parent requests it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

Sadly, allegedly, there are also kids reporting to their teachers that they will kill themselves if others don’t accept their gender identities, or because this or the other. Unfortunately, kids face all kinds of issues, challenges, and traumas. That has always existed. What is new as of recently, however, is the perspective some kids have in life. They seem to have been robed of any sense of hope, self-worth, true identity, and resilience.

The pain these kids who fear deportation along with their parents is very real, but so is their reality. As for the alleged teachers and counselors at FCPS, besides perpetuating on the feeling of hopelessness and helplessness, this is the time to rise above that and besides lending an ear, a word of comfort, etc., they will have to talk to these students about resilience, strength, the future, their self-worth independent from their geographic location, or color of their skin, or gender. These kids need to hear that things will work out fine in the end, though it may not seem like it at this moment. That adversity through resilience can become growth. That they have their entire future ahead of them. A good starting point would be using role models of people who have risen through the worst of adversity and yet not only survive, but excelled. There are many examples, but the most recent one that comes to mind is JD Vance. Of course there are others, such as Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, or the many women in Latin America who became presidents of their countries 14 times altogether!

While we can’t change reality for these kids -or any other kid- we, as adults, can role model how to cope and make the best out of things we can’t change.

I agree that they need to hear that all is not lost even if they do get deported. They are resilient and can thrive anywhere.

This generation should learn you can't have everything you want and certainly not if you or your parents have broken the law to get it.

Go to Guatemala and prove it.

I don't need to. Millions of people live in Guatemala now believe it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

There have been a steady stream of kids showing up from the border over the last 4 years. They've been taking up time and resources from American kids for a long time. There is no way they're walking here from Central America and other far flung places without experiencing and seeing significant trauma along the way. Especially for the girls. All of this requires support.

Last I heard Fairfax county public School are a school not a meals, daycare or counseling service. The perversion of it into some social program has caused the core mission to be out on the back burner to advanced liberal social agendas.

this is a perfect example of the lack of compassion which is why we are in this Trump mess now.

Sitting in a multi-million dollar home and virtue signaling compassion!

That is precisely why Trump is elected. When voters send a message, heed it! Why did they elect someone who precipitated Jan 6, 2021? It is easy to say, all the voters who elected him are idiots.

Maybe, the other party did something even worse. If you learn, maybe after 4 years, we would return to much more moderate policies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While some of you celebrate what’s going on as a win, here's a little dose of reality. There are students in FCPS now telling their teachers and counselors that they will kill themselves if they get deported to a country they have never lived in/do not remember living in. Regardless of whether you feel that those kids and their families “deserve” this, the teachers and counselors now have to divert time and resources to dealing with the kids who are now in crisis. Not only does this lead to more teachers and counselors wanting to quit, but it also means less time and resources for your kid. And no, it doesn’t matter whose fault this is. Your kid will suffer either way. I hope you’re happy.

I missed the part where that's my problem.

My kid certainly isn't suffering because some teen is sad their parents screwed up.

Yes, we know you are a heartless moron. You voted for Trump.

But you’re also pro-life, right? Right?????? Or does that only go as far as my vagina and uterus. Once the kid is here then you don’t give a shit?

I’m asking this as well. And are they only pro life for American white babies?

Are you aware that blacks are the most affected by abortions in the U.S.? More than 40% of abortions in our country are performed on black women, which represent less than 13% of the total population. Although the Pro-Life movement fights to save the lives of all babies regardless of race, their success will help black babies to have a chance to live as much, if not more, than any other race in the U.S.:

https://ohiosenate.gov/news/on-the-record/abortion-is-killing-the-black-community

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/03/25/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-us/

Although this thread is not about abortion nor racism, you insist to equate both, somehow, as the root to why there may be some ICE presence at schools in FCPS. If they come to our schools to remove criminals who are involved in gangs and cartels who deal with drugs and human trafficking, that would only benefit everyone - including students who are in our country illegally because they are also affected by these crimes. FCPS, for some reason, has failed to clarify why ICE may come to our schools, and what kind of students (violent criminals) they may remove. My guess is school grounds are the only place where they can catch them for sure because that is where they will be selling drugs to our students, or selling people. If anything, FCPS should also be talking about a better system in place to prevent these “students” from attending our schools.

In any case, I hope you take your time to read both articles to learn more about abortion, racism, and violent criminals who are in our country illegally and need to be removed.

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of FCPS students are either themselves here illegally or their parents are?

10% by one estimate I saw.