UVa, William and Mary, Virginia Tech should be shut down and split up or expanded

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia has a very good tier of schools like GMU, JMU, VCU under those three schools. They’re all very good.

You don’t seem to understand OP. They seem to think they are entitled to a certain level of prestige.

On what basis?

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Anonymous wrote:DC applied to all three of these schools last cycle and will be trying again. These three schools are getting more competitive and out of reach for everyday people. I think each of them should be split up into multiple different schools that each have less competitive admissions or they should each double in size. Not just a 10% increase or 2% increase every year or whatever thing like that. They need to start construction NOW to build at least 2x the housing, classrooms, etc. to accommodate double the number of students and all new students should be required to come from Virginia. These admissions practices have gone way too far. As soon as admission rates hit below 50% for in-state applicants there should be mandatory student body expansions

Why not go to a CC? UVA and W&M are actively trying to recruit low-income students and students from underserved backgrounds. Probably VTech too (just don't know as much personally but can't imagine it's that different. I know they actively recruit low-income through first year admissions.). Even if you aren't underserved you can still do guaranteed admission to UVA, W&M, VTech after an associate's degree.

I suspect they are not low income, just high entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. There are a lot of great VA in-state options. Why not attend one of those?

Their child has a 4.0! They deserve to get in!

Someone with a 4.0 deserves to get into all three. DC didn't even get into VTech. Waitlisted. Ridiculous and absurd.

4.0 unweighted?
What was their SAT score?

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My oldest attends W&M. They got in despite less than stellar SATs (under 1400) and plenty of Bs in high school.

My youngest has slightly lower stats and likely won't get in to the top 3 VA schools but is happily applying to GMU, VCU, UMW, and JMU.

Yes, UVA has gotten VERY tough, but the rest are all within reach for good students.

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Anonymous wrote:Why? Virginia has many schools for all types of students.

Let me guess. YOUR kids go to one of the top 3? That's what I thought. There needs to be a change.

The necessary change is mostly in your sense of entitlement.

Just fcking earn it.

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. There are a lot of great VA in-state options. Why not attend one of those?

There is too much hierarchy. Alternatively, they could combine all of the universities (UVa, VTech, William and Mary, Gmu, Jmu, Cnu, Longwood) into one university and have a lottery for all who are accepted to decide who goes to which campus.

This wouldn’t make sense because location does matter when it comes to universities. If someone want to stay local or work closely to certain industries it wouldn’t work.

Free transferring between all campuses. CNU students can transfer to UVA & W&M and so can Longwood students. Free transferring between campuses once you're admitted to the system.

That just waters down the quality of the top schools

They want the prize without the race.

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Anonymous wrote:You all are so lucky to live in VA. We are considering paying $70-$80k to send our kid to one of your schools…if they are lucky enough to even be admitted.

Maybe Virginia need to shrink the out of state student body to make more spots for taxpayer in state kids.

Taxes barely contribute to W&M and UVA's budgets. At that point they would be better off going private, out of state students help maintain their budgets.

+1
UVA: 12%
W&M: 11%

if they moved to 50/50 in state/out of state like michigan, the student body would become more competitive and they would turn a profit.

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Anonymous wrote:The history is that both ODU and CNU previously were part of W&M.

GMU previously was part of UVA. UVA Wise still exists - a bit surprising OP's DC did not apply there. UMW was originally the women's college counterpart to UVA (which was almost only men until around 1970).

I have been told that both Radford and JMU were founded as Teachers Colleges way back when.

UVA must re-absorb GMU and UMW. There must be free transferring between these campuses. W&M must re-absorb ODU and CNU. There must also be free transferring between these. This has to happen.

ROFLMAO. Why? Because your kid wants to graduate with a UVA degree?

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I guess schools like UGA and UNC are significantly larger than UVA?

The states have larger populations, yet their in-state flagship acceptance rates are significantly higher than UVA.

Georgia then has GA Tech and North Carolina has NC State.

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. There are a lot of great VA in-state options. Why not attend one of those?

Their child has a 4.0! They deserve to get in!

Someone with a 4.0 deserves to get into all three. DC didn't even get into VTech. Waitlisted. Ridiculous and absurd.

Grades are practically meaningless. Many schools are finding this out when their admits with high high school GPAs (but no SAT/ACT scores submitted) are floundering once they start college.

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Anonymous wrote:DC applied to all three of these schools last cycle and will be trying again. These three schools are getting more competitive and out of reach for everyday people. I think each of them should be split up into multiple different schools that each have less competitive admissions or they should each double in size. Not just a 10% increase or 2% increase every year or whatever thing like that. They need to start construction NOW to build at least 2x the housing, classrooms, etc. to accommodate double the number of students and all new students should be required to come from Virginia. These admissions practices have gone way too far. As soon as admission rates hit below 50% for in-state applicants there should be mandatory student body expansions

Double in size?. Geez VA Tech already has 50K students.

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Anonymous wrote:DC applied to all three of these schools last cycle and will be trying again. These three schools are getting more competitive and out of reach for everyday people. I think each of them should be split up into multiple different schools that each have less competitive admissions or they should each double in size. Not just a 10% increase or 2% increase every year or whatever thing like that. They need to start construction NOW to build at least 2x the housing, classrooms, etc. to accommodate double the number of students and all new students should be required to come from Virginia. These admissions practices have gone way too far. As soon as admission rates hit below 50% for in-state applicants there should be mandatory student body expansions

Strange post.

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w&m going from 10k to 20k would cause williamsburg to absolutely riot

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Anonymous wrote:DC applied to all three of these schools last cycle and will be trying again. These three schools are getting more competitive and out of reach for everyday people. I think each of them should be split up into multiple different schools that each have less competitive admissions or they should each double in size. Not just a 10% increase or 2% increase every year or whatever thing like that. They need to start construction NOW to build at least 2x the housing, classrooms, etc. to accommodate double the number of students and all new students should be required to come from Virginia. These admissions practices have gone way too far. As soon as admission rates hit below 50% for in-state applicants there should be mandatory student body expansions

Virginia started Virginia-Wise
William and Mary started CNU
GMU and JMU are great alternatives to Tech depending on intended major.

On top of those, there is VCU and Mary Washington.

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Anonymous wrote:That makes no sense. There are a lot of great VA in-state options. Why not attend one of those?

Their child has a 4.0! They deserve to get in!

Someone with a 4.0 deserves to get into all three. DC didn't even get into VTech. Waitlisted. Ridiculous and absurd.

I’m guessing they went test optional. It’s unfortunate, because with grade inflation and multiple retakes, all these college know a 4.0 doesn’t mean much coming from public schools like APS where anything 89.5 and above is an A. It’s meaningless without the high SAT or ACT to back it up.