Nancy Mace’s Women’s Bathroom Bill

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that women are much more likely to be sexually assaulted by a male priest, a coach, an employer, a fellow college student (male), or a male relative than she is by a mythical wig-donning male perv who is trying to use women's bathrooms.

Not according to this obviously mentally stable person.

She’s a bigot for not wanting that person in a bathroom with her.

/s obviously

No. She doesn't want her trans colleague in the bathroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Reps have their own private bathrooms in their offices.

LOL Mace is such a buffoon.

Sucks that you democrats are in the 15% minority on the issue.

Where's the stat from?

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Why can’t the transwomen just use the men’s room?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the transwomen just use the men’s room?

Are you just waking up from 1995 or something?

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that women are much more likely to be sexually assaulted by a male priest, a coach, an employer, a fellow college student (male), or a male relative than she is by a mythical wig-donning male perv who is trying to use women's bathrooms.

So it's only about sexual assault then? Not the invasion of a space in which women should feel safe, comfortable, respected? As long as the men aren't assaulting them, we're good?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the transwomen just use the men’s room?

Are you just waking up from 1995 or something?

No, I just haven’t heard a good answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

In high schools that have public pools, locker rooms are shared by children, teens, and adults. I found it creepy enough that some grown men would stand around naked for 10, 15, or more minutes without even pretending to have a towel in their hand when there were multiple kids around because a swim class had just ended, sometimes even toddler girls with their dads. Why someone who is obviously not a female in appearance would do this in a woman's locker room just because they feel they have the "right" is bordering on some kind of mental -ism.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the transwomen just use the men’s room?

Another question is that if we’re all being prudes, why can’t men just use women’s locker rooms and just hang out and watch them undress? Does being more statistically prone to being a sexual predator start and end with identifying as a woman?

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Is Matt Gaetz going to be the congressional penis checker?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is that women are much more likely to be sexually assaulted by a male priest, a coach, an employer, a fellow college student (male), or a male relative than she is by a mythical wig-donning male perv who is trying to use women's bathrooms.

So it's only about sexual assault then? Not the invasion of a space in which women should feel safe, comfortable, respected? As long as the men aren't assaulting them, we're good?

Darn, if women want safe, comfortable and respected, how do any churches still exist?

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

In high schools that have public pools, locker rooms are shared by children, teens, and adults. I found it creepy enough that some grown men would stand around naked for 10, 15, or more minutes without even pretending to have a towel in their hand when there were multiple kids around because a swim class had just ended, sometimes even toddler girls with their dads. Why someone who is obviously not a female in appearance would do this in a woman's locker room just because they feel they have the "right" is bordering on some kind of mental -ism.

None of this is "bordering" on it. It has completely crossed over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the transwomen just use the men’s room?

Are you just waking up from 1995 or something?

No, I just haven’t heard a good answer.

People use the restroom they're most comfortable with.

It sounds like you and Mace (and others) are proposing genital checks. If not, what am I missing?

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who don't want to change in front of a transgender female, how do you feel about changing in front of a lesbian??

Is she 6 ft. 3 with a penis? Then not great, actually.

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For starters seeing a man entering a women's restroom is a huge red flag. If transwomen in women's restrooms becomes normalized, there is no red flag.

Also, your example scenario isn't likely. Women know not to go to secluded spaces alone because unfortunately some men have been animals since the beginning of time. We teach our girls the dangers of men very early.

You really think transwomen haven't been going into female restrooms gasp undetected for years and years, leading completely normal lives? Not every transwoman looks like Mrs. Doubtfire.

We can still tell.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Harris voter who hates Trump and I also have trans friends and colleagues and I want their rights protected. So those are my bona fides if you choose to believe them.

I think people who dismiss and put down the trans bathroom issue often don't really understand the argument being made. I think people are actually discouraged from engaging the argument at all and that this is to the detriment of Democrats because if you can't understand the argument you can't propose a solution to it that is consistent with Democratic values.

The argument is NOT that trans women should be barred from womens bathrooms because there is something scary about being the next stall over from someone with a penis or being in an enclosed space with someone with a penis. Women are around people with penises all the time including in a workplace like Congress.

The argument is that if we affirmatively allow trans women into womens restrooms, it opens the door for men who are perverts and predators to use that as a "loophole" for gaining access to a women's space where women might be vulnerable. If having a penis is not a disqualifer for entering a womens bathroom (since many trans women have penises) then, so people like Nancy Mace argue, there is no way to prevent men (just men, not trans women) from posing as women in order to go into womens bathrooms and attack women.

There are good arguments against this argument. Make them. But when you just roll your eyes and say things like "omg are you afraid of penises? you know people don't get naked in public bathrooms right?" you actually hand people like Mace a gift. Because it shows you don't actually understand the underlying concern (which is shared by plenty of Americans) and are unwilling to actually engage the argument being made so you throw up straw men instead. It's not helpful.

The people who are trying to dismiss and minimize the issues here do not care about the increased risk to women. If some women get physically hurt in the service of protecting the feelings of transwomen, they’re fine with that tradeoff.

But "being a predator in a woman's restroom" is already illegal, right? What's the point of passing a law/regulation disallowing something that already is illegal? Isn't this what the 2A nuts always say when there are proposals out there to increase firearms regulations? "Nothing needs to happen, it's already illegal to murder, only the illegals/murderers are going to do that, and hey, murderers gonna murder, amirite?" So by that same logic, this bill is trying to regulate the "what ifs" of the male predators, when predators are going to be predators, and no bill is going to keep them from doing that.

Because it's not what the bill is regulating. It's designed to humiliate.

For once a sane post and I say this as a woman who has a daughter