Nancy Mace’s Women’s Bathroom Bill

[Anonymous]

I've never once seen anybody naked in a public bathroom, so I don't see what the issue is.

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

Have you been to a gym recently or a pool? There are communal changing rooms with lockers. In what world do you live in where everyone in a gym gets their own private changing room after getting a shower?!

There are changing cabins in all locker rooms worth their salt. Would bet money the congressional gym has them too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

Have you been to a gym recently or a pool? There are communal changing rooms with lockers. In what world do you live in where everyone in a gym gets their own private changing room after getting a shower?!

Yes, there is a changing section connected to the shower. Or multiple bathroom stalls.

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

Have you been to a gym recently or a pool? There are communal changing rooms with lockers. In what world do you live in where everyone in a gym gets their own private changing room after getting a shower?!

All the ones I have used have private showers and changing rooms. And yes, it includes public pools and gyms.

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

Seriously, they have to be some boomers, because nobody walked around naked in any of the locker rooms I used.

Seriously. They certainly haven’t been in a locker room for decades. And they don’t have teens.

[Anonymous]

Stupid maga a$$hole to draw attention to .matt gaetz

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Anonymous wrote:Nancy Mace says she has PTSD because she’s a survivor of rape and doesn’t want anyone with a penis in women’s private spaces.

Dems are going to have a hard time with this one.

How does Mace know whether 1) McBride has a penis (McBride could be post-op) and 2) why does she think that said penis, if it exists, will be displayed in the bathroom? Women's bathrooms have private stalls.

Let’s play a thought experiment. How far do you want to take this? By your logic, Travis Kelce could just put on a wig and stand around a women’s locker room ogling everyone as long as he kept his clothes on and that’d be totally fine, right?

Crazy town.

Haven't travelled much, have you? Lots of countries have unisex bathrooms and some even have unisex locker rooms and unisex saunas. They also have nude and topless beaches. Heck, I lived in Northern Europe in the 70s and used unisex bathrooms in public facilities all the time.

And have you ever used the bathroom on an airplane? Guess what

Anyway - go for it, Nancy Mace. Sure
thing. Here's your moment.

What a weird comment. A single stall bathroom that locks and can be used by both genders isn’t the same as a women’s bathroom with multiple stalls or a women’s locker room. Surely you know that.

And people walk around naked in locker rooms all the time. You are acting in bad faith if you’re pretending otherwise.

No one is walking around naked in my kid’s HS locker room.

Have you been to a gym recently or a pool? There are communal changing rooms with lockers. In what world do you live in where everyone in a gym gets their own private changing room after getting a shower?!

All the ones I have used have private showers and changing rooms. And yes, it includes public pools and gyms.

Do they even have men’s and women’s locker rooms? Sounds like there’s no need.

[Anonymous]

Those of you with women's bathroom obsessions...you do know that women use stalls with doors, right? They don't use exposed urinals like in men's bathrooms. There is nothing to ogle in a woman's bathroom since any undressing happens behind closed doors.

[Anonymous]

Just what I've been asking my congressman to do for a very long time spend their time in acting bills and policing a building that I have never been in and never will be.

[Anonymous]

My husband and I share a bathroom and never ones have I been so frightened to go in there. I've thought of an acting a house rule to ban him.
I also frequently use the whole bathroom that my son and daughter use + they have seen tampons and pads and makeup and other stuff and my son has never once expressed distress or confusion over this.

It's almost like most people go on living their lives using bathrooms with opposite sexes and opposite genders with no long-term physical or emotional wounds.

Are all our Congress peoples such fragile snowflakes that they can't do what Americans do all day everyday?

[Anonymous]

For those of you who don't want to change in front of a transgender female, how do you feel about changing in front of a lesbian??

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you with women's bathroom obsessions...you do know that women use stalls with doors, right? They don't use exposed urinals like in men's bathrooms. There is nothing to ogle in a woman's bathroom since any undressing happens behind closed doors.

This. What exactly do they think is out there for ogling in a women's bathroom? I have never seen anyone other than fully dressed in a public bathroom. Some places even just have common stall areas with a central handwashing area.

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Anonymous wrote:Great, as a 5'10" woman, born a woman, I'm going to have more MAGAs harass me about going to the bathroom, just like the last Trump admin, aren't I?

You don't have to be tall to be harassed for going to the women's restroom. I'm 5'4" and got confronted when going in the women's room twice during Trump's first reign of idiocy. I have, like, zero boobs and a short haircut. I'm a woman, born a woman, who is married to a man, but I guess I wasn't feminine looking enough for these people. I should have started growing out my hair last year, I guess...

[Anonymous]

I'm a Harris voter who hates Trump and I also have trans friends and colleagues and I want their rights protected. So those are my bona fides if you choose to believe them.

I think people who dismiss and put down the trans bathroom issue often don't really understand the argument being made. I think people are actually discouraged from engaging the argument at all and that this is to the detriment of Democrats because if you can't understand the argument you can't propose a solution to it that is consistent with Democratic values.

The argument is NOT that trans women should be barred from womens bathrooms because there is something scary about being the next stall over from someone with a penis or being in an enclosed space with someone with a penis. Women are around people with penises all the time including in a workplace like Congress.

The argument is that if we affirmatively allow trans women into womens restrooms, it opens the door for men who are perverts and predators to use that as a "loophole" for gaining access to a women's space where women might be vulnerable. If having a penis is not a disqualifer for entering a womens bathroom (since many trans women have penises) then, so people like Nancy Mace argue, there is no way to prevent men (just men, not trans women) from posing as women in order to go into womens bathrooms and attack women.

There are good arguments against this argument. Make them. But when you just roll your eyes and say things like "omg are you afraid of penises? you know people don't get naked in public bathrooms right?" you actually hand people like Mace a gift. Because it shows you don't actually understand the underlying concern (which is shared by plenty of Americans) and are unwilling to actually engage the argument being made so you throw up straw men instead. It's not helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Harris voter who hates Trump and I also have trans friends and colleagues and I want their rights protected. So those are my bona fides if you choose to believe them.

I think people who dismiss and put down the trans bathroom issue often don't really understand the argument being made. I think people are actually discouraged from engaging the argument at all and that this is to the detriment of Democrats because if you can't understand the argument you can't propose a solution to it that is consistent with Democratic values.

The argument is NOT that trans women should be barred from womens bathrooms because there is something scary about being the next stall over from someone with a penis or being in an enclosed space with someone with a penis. Women are around people with penises all the time including in a workplace like Congress.

The argument is that if we affirmatively allow trans women into womens restrooms, it opens the door for men who are perverts and predators to use that as a "loophole" for gaining access to a women's space where women might be vulnerable. If having a penis is not a disqualifer for entering a womens bathroom (since many trans women have penises) then, so people like Nancy Mace argue, there is no way to prevent men (just men, not trans women) from posing as women in order to go into womens bathrooms and attack women.

There are good arguments against this argument. Make them. But when you just roll your eyes and say things like "omg are you afraid of penises? you know people don't get naked in public bathrooms right?" you actually hand people like Mace a gift. Because it shows you don't actually understand the underlying concern (which is shared by plenty of Americans) and are unwilling to actually engage the argument being made so you throw up straw men instead. It's not helpful.

So how do you envision this getting resolved? Penis check at the entrance? What do your trans friends want? Surely you discussed this with them.