Aps bond — yes or no

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

First we do know this, it was announced at the time. Which was 3-4 years ago. It was funded with Covid money. The VLP closed years ago. What possible relevance does it have now? Other than the APEs are still mad about spending money on kids that needed it, they are resource hoarders!

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Anonymous wrote:Because these bonds are always approved by voters there is no fear from the school board on them. They need to feel like they might not get approved to show some fiscal restraint. They spend at will and are irresponsible. Vote no. It will pass. But out the fear of God in them.

It is not irresponsible to update the kitchen and HVACs in schools?

WTF is wrong with you people?

Except that’s not what they’ll do. They’ll create a new building for Montessori.

You don’t understand. For every project that needs to get done APS has another it wastes money on. Until voters out some real pressure on them they will continue to waste money until they won’t be able to fix a roof or even a door hinge they will be so broke. All you people just always voting yes and always voting for the democrats are what is making this school system as irresponsible as it is. There is no accountability to voters. None.

F the kids in the process, right?

It takes a real POS to vote against this bond.

Saying no to proposed APS spending does not make the person a POS or “F the kids.” Again liberals demonizing people who disagree with them. I get that this is what you believe Donald Trump does (as do I) but you cannot recognize it in yourselves.

Well it doesn’t help schools or kids, seems consistent with a the R/APE efforts to destroy public schools so they can funnel money to private

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

It’s in the works. Assuming it passes.
"Conducts Feasibility studies for five (5) facilities: Thomas Jefferson MS, Taylor ES, Barrett ES, Swanson MS, Randolph ES, based on the Long-Range Plan to Renovate Existing Facilities’
Methodology"

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of degenerate votes no on this?

>Roof and HVAC upgrades at Dorothy Hamm, Escuela Key, Hoffman-Boston, Jamestown, Oakridge and Williamsburg.
>Critical infrastructure projects such as the adaptive reuse of the Legacy Career Center Building for Montessori Public School of Arlington.
>Kitchen upgrades at Arlington Science Focus, Ashlawn, Barrett and Carlin Springs.



Funny how APE is silent on this...

Isn’t Dorothy Hamm NEW? And Montessori needs to be eliminated anyway.

How about this — they get a refund for all the money they wasted on VPL. Use that.

what's VPL?

Their version of virtual school. You know, trying to re-invent Virtual Virginia.

Money flushed down the toilet. Tons of it.

Oh so you mean VLP, the Virtual Learning Program, not VPL. You come across as really uninformed when you criticize a program you don’t even bother to know enough about to get the name right. And really weird to be so triggered to bring it up 3 years later too. Very on brand for APE. 🦧

You can see the person corrected themselves several pages ago…

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

+1000

Let’s renovate the SA schools that need it first — using Nottingham for swing space.

Having a Montessori program makes no sense when their results are no better than the other elementaries.

Let’s get rid of MPSA and turn it into a second ATS. Any option school funding should be directed toward programs that actually produce results.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

It’s in the works. Assuming it passes.
"Conducts Feasibility studies for five (5) facilities: Thomas Jefferson MS, Taylor ES, Barrett ES, Swanson MS, Randolph ES, based on the Long-Range Plan to Renovate Existing Facilities’
Methodology"

A study is not a renovation. TJMS has been waiting for years now. MOG stacked the deck in favor of MPSA. That’s a no for me dog.

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Absolutely not

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

It’s in the works. Assuming it passes.
"Conducts Feasibility studies for five (5) facilities: Thomas Jefferson MS, Taylor ES, Barrett ES, Swanson MS, Randolph ES, based on the Long-Range Plan to Renovate Existing Facilities’
Methodology"

A study is not a renovation. TJMS has been waiting for years now. MOG stacked the deck in favor of MPSA. That’s a no for me dog.

How do you think renovations work? Construction workers just show up one day?

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing we need to know is how much money was spent on VLP.

Totally irrelevant, except to Republican trolls.

An example of wasteful spending isn’t relevant to a discussion of current spending?

Ohhhhhhkay

A one-time project coming out of the pandemic vs. basic infrastructure updates.

Absolutely not relevant, except to Republican trolls.

It’s a perfect example of APS making terrible decisions when given a huge chunk of money. Of course no one trusts them anymore!

That money should’ve gone to a number of resources that could’ve helped students at the time. Trying to make their own Virtual Virginia was an asinine decision.

And totally irrelevant to the question....

Should we fund some basic infrastructure updates across APS schools? Yes, we should.

This isn't some wacky new idea to deal with an unprecedented situation -- this is updating roofs FFS.

You people are horrible.

So let’s update some roofs. SA schools first. No funds to Montessori.

Done.

+1 renovate TJMS. It’s in the worst condition and only got jumped over because of MOG and her MPSA minions.

It’s in the works. Assuming it passes.
"Conducts Feasibility studies for five (5) facilities: Thomas Jefferson MS, Taylor ES, Barrett ES, Swanson MS, Randolph ES, based on the Long-Range Plan to Renovate Existing Facilities’
Methodology"

A study is not a renovation. TJMS has been waiting for years now. MOG stacked the deck in favor of MPSA. That’s a no for me dog.

How do you think renovations work? Construction workers just show up one day?

A “study” commits no funds to actual work, pushing these hypothetical projects into the future, while MPSA gets what they want.

No.

[Anonymous]

Converting the legacy Career Center building is not adding new seats. It's replacing the old Patrick Henry Building. Net zero new seats. This is the last piece of the Career Center campus plan proposed by the CCWG. Tearing down Patrick Henry provides a field for the 1000+ Career Center students who need a field for PE and extracurriculars, like any student. If this project doesn't move forward, we leave an empty legacy Career Center building, which will be a costly relic, we leave a crappy PH building that needs HVAC, roof and more, which will be wasteful and expensive to repair. And we leave Career Center students without a field, which is inequitable. Saying this is a pet project for Montessori ignores the big picture.

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Anonymous wrote:Converting the legacy Career Center building is not adding new seats. It's replacing the old Patrick Henry Building. Net zero new seats. This is the last piece of the Career Center campus plan proposed by the CCWG. Tearing down Patrick Henry provides a field for the 1000+ Career Center students who need a field for PE and extracurriculars, like any student. If this project doesn't move forward, we leave an empty legacy Career Center building, which will be a costly relic, we leave a crappy PH building that needs HVAC, roof and more, which will be wasteful and expensive to repair. And we leave Career Center students without a field, which is inequitable. Saying this is a pet project for Montessori ignores the big picture.

Scrap MPSA and make it a second ATS.

[Anonymous]

Lolllllll

Ignoring our SA schools is what’s inequitable. No more option school funding till neighborhood schools are fixed.

[Anonymous]

I went to a (private, small) Montessori preschool+K years ago. It was good for me. I like the Montessori program. It is not an approach which works equally well for all children, however. Some kids would thrive, but others would have trouble with focus and not learn as much.

That said, Adding a 2nd ATS or (somehow) expanding the current ATS would make more sense than adding a Montessori. The number of applicants for the ATS lottery is a clear and strong demand signal for ATS.

Renovating multiple elementary schools each in turn starting with whichever is in the worst shape right now (using the one school as the swing space) also makes a lot of sense to me.

Some parts of the proposed uses for the bond seem to me like they should be lower priority.

And a “feasibility study” is very different from a commitment to actually renovate.

It seems like a very mixed bag to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a (private, small) Montessori preschool+K years ago. It was good for me. I like the Montessori program. It is not an approach which works equally well for all children, however. Some kids would thrive, but others would have trouble with focus and not learn as much.

That said, Adding a 2nd ATS or (somehow) expanding the current ATS would make more sense than adding a Montessori. The number of applicants for the ATS lottery is a clear and strong demand signal for ATS.

Renovating multiple elementary schools each in turn starting with whichever is in the worst shape right now (using the one school as the swing space) also makes a lot of sense to me.

Some parts of the proposed uses for the bond seem to me like they should be lower priority.

And a “feasibility study” is very different from a commitment to actually renovate.

It seems like a very mixed bag to me.

Exactly. I’m not opposed to many parts of the proposal, but the overall package sucks.