Is Ashton Kutcher messed up?

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Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.


That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.


He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.


Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.


That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s. By the mid 90s it became icky.

I graduated in 1989 and another in 1985. Lots of freshmen girls dated seniors. I had several high school friends dating college guys, and knew a few dating men in their early 20s (like 16/17/18 dating 21/22/23/24 year old men, although they did have to sneak to get that past parents.) Several of them married and are still married.

My sisters graduated 1992 & 1995. By then, the guys doing this were considered losers and predators.


Bullshit. And this was the early 2000s, not 40 or 50 years ago. He’s clearly a predator. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Diddy and Masterson were his BEST FRIENDS.


How young are you?

A 3 to 6 year age spread was not uncommon at all during high school in the 80s.



DP. High school girls dating college guys is different than a college man dating a girl in middle school. People would've been disturbed by that scenario in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and beyond. And recalling tales from your adolescence in SE Kentucky doesn't change that.
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Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.


That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.


He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.


Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.


That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s. By the mid 90s it became icky.

I graduated in 1989 and another in 1985. Lots of freshmen girls dated seniors. I had several high school friends dating college guys, and knew a few dating men in their early 20s (like 16/17/18 dating 21/22/23/24 year old men, although they did have to sneak to get that past parents.) Several of them married and are still married.

My sisters graduated 1992 & 1995. By then, the guys doing this were considered losers and predators.


Bullshit. And this was the early 2000s, not 40 or 50 years ago. He’s clearly a predator. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Diddy and Masterson were his BEST FRIENDS.


How young are you?

A 3 to 6 year age spread was not uncommon at all during high school in the 80s.



DP. High school girls dating college guys is different than a college man dating a girl in middle school. People would've been disturbed by that scenario in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and beyond. And recalling tales from your adolescence in SE Kentucky doesn't change that.


If you read what post you were responding to, you would see the thread was discussing high school not middle school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.


That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.


He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.


Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.


That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s. By the mid 90s it became icky.

I graduated in 1989 and another in 1985. Lots of freshmen girls dated seniors. I had several high school friends dating college guys, and knew a few dating men in their early 20s (like 16/17/18 dating 21/22/23/24 year old men, although they did have to sneak to get that past parents.) Several of them married and are still married.

My sisters graduated 1992 & 1995. By then, the guys doing this were considered losers and predators.


Bullshit. And this was the early 2000s, not 40 or 50 years ago. He’s clearly a predator. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Diddy and Masterson were his BEST FRIENDS.


How young are you?

A 3 to 6 year age spread was not uncommon at all during high school in the 80s.



The people in question on this thread didn’t go to high school in the 80s so why do you keep bringing this up as though it’s relevant?


Ummm

Clearly you are not reading anything.

This particular thread is in response to a poster who said that age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s/early 90s.

You keep saying we are lying, but there are multiple posters who actually went to high school in the 80s/early 90s who are telling you that age spread was not uncommon at all during that time.


And I am asking you why you think it’s relevant to people who would have been in high school in the mid-90s to early 2000s.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.


That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.


He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.


Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.


That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s. By the mid 90s it became icky.

I graduated in 1989 and another in 1985. Lots of freshmen girls dated seniors. I had several high school friends dating college guys, and knew a few dating men in their early 20s (like 16/17/18 dating 21/22/23/24 year old men, although they did have to sneak to get that past parents.) Several of them married and are still married.

My sisters graduated 1992 & 1995. By then, the guys doing this were considered losers and predators.


Bullshit. And this was the early 2000s, not 40 or 50 years ago. He’s clearly a predator. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Diddy and Masterson were his BEST FRIENDS.


How young are you?

A 3 to 6 year age spread was not uncommon at all during high school in the 80s.



DP. High school girls dating college guys is different than a college man dating a girl in middle school. People would've been disturbed by that scenario in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and beyond. And recalling tales from your adolescence in SE Kentucky doesn't change that.


If you read what post you were responding to, you would see the thread was discussing high school not middle school


You're right. The discussion was originally about a middle school girl with a 19 yo man, a 6-year age gap. Then someone posted the non sequitur--
"That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s." Followed by another story of HSers dating.

Let's get back to the creepy predatory Ashton Kutcher/Danny Masterson/Mila Kunis mess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.


That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.


He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.


Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.


That age spread was not uncommon during high school in the 80s. By the mid 90s it became icky.

I graduated in 1989 and another in 1985. Lots of freshmen girls dated seniors. I had several high school friends dating college guys, and knew a few dating men in their early 20s (like 16/17/18 dating 21/22/23/24 year old men, although they did have to sneak to get that past parents.) Several of them married and are still married.

My sisters graduated 1992 & 1995. By then, the guys doing this were considered losers and predators.


Bullshit. And this was the early 2000s, not 40 or 50 years ago. He’s clearly a predator. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future. Diddy and Masterson were his BEST FRIENDS.


How young are you?

A 3 to 6 year age spread was not uncommon at all during high school in the 80s.



DP. High school girls dating college guys is different than a college man dating a girl in middle school. People would've been disturbed by that scenario in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and beyond. And recalling tales from your adolescence in SE Kentucky doesn't change that.


+1
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This wasn’t at school though or college guys cruising a middle school. They were working together. When you are colleagues working together - doing the same tasks, age isn’t all that relevant and isn’t as noticeable. Especially as these guys were clearly quite immature. Mila may have been quite mature given she was working at her age. I don’t think she differences would have stood out glaringly in set.
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Anonymous wrote:This wasn’t at school though or college guys cruising a middle school. They were working together. When you are colleagues working together - doing the same tasks, age isn’t all that relevant and isn’t as noticeable. Especially as these guys were clearly quite immature. Mila may have been quite mature given she was working at her age. I don’t think she differences would have stood out glaringly in set.


Also, a 14 year old girl would be in high school - a freshman.
Anonymous
Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.


What about when Almonzo kissed Laura in Little House on the Prairie? He was an actual man, in his mid 20s, and she was 15! The kiss was pretty chaste, and the age spread was very close to the real life people they were portraying, but it was still scandalous.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.


Are you dense? No one is talking about casting. They are upset because Kutcher made a bet with his sicko friend Danny Masterson that he could French kiss a 14 year old while on set. Completely inappropriate and unprofessional.
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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.


Are you dense? No one is talking about casting. They are upset because Kutcher made a bet with his sicko friend Danny Masterson that he could French kiss a 14 year old while on set. Completely inappropriate and unprofessional.


Ok. I’m sure you never made any jokes or comments in your youth that you’d regret today. It’s a kiss, that’s it. Danny masterson is a criminal, Ashton Kutcher was an idiot teen in a different time.
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Anonymous wrote:When I went to college in the early 00’s, it was totally typical for the guys to joke while watching sports games about r*ping the other team, getting it in the *ss, and I distinctly remember there being an online countdown for “when the Olson twins turned 18”. There was zero shame about any of this back then and if you thought it was gross, you were deemed too sensitive and feminist.


Yes I went to college at the same time, and young men/boys got away with awful behavior then. Ashton became super popular during this era, and he was the epitome of a good looking white dude who became famous for being a not that funny d-bag ass hole. Like others have said he has tried to rehabilitate his image but the whole Danny Masterson thing has basically cancelled him. He reminds me of Justin Timberlake in a lot of ways, but even less talented.
Anonymous
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." He is a messed up creep, period.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.


Are you dense? No one is talking about casting. They are upset because Kutcher made a bet with his sicko friend Danny Masterson that he could French kiss a 14 year old while on set. Completely inappropriate and unprofessional.


+1 We're not talking characters on a show. And even in the case of actors, this wasn't the case of an "old soul" 14 year old developing a relationship over the years with a work companion. This is two guys, 19 and 21(!) years old, placing bets about how far the envelope can be pushed sexually with an underage actress.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why people are picking on Ashton Kutcher for his on screen girlfriend in a 1990s show being younger than him. It was all casting.

Jared Leto was like 20 something to Claire Danes 14 on my so called life. Shane west was about 23 to Mandy Moore’s 16 on the set of a walk to remember. In fact, Mandy Moore and Shane west were rumored to have hooked up offscreen, and they are still friends many years later. Mila kunis and Ashton kutchers age gap is hardly unusual and had nothing to do with him personally. I don’t get what people are looking for on this thread.


Oy vey, how much are you paid to post this deflection crap? Mila is that you?
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