Is Ashton Kutcher messed up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

In 7th grade, I knew a girl who was dating a Senior. That could be a 14 yo and a 19 yo. I'm GenX like you and it was scandalous. It demonstrated how messed up a guy had to be to date someone that soon out of elementary school.

And the french kissing wasn't about Mila, but about Ashton and Danny placing bets on it re: a 14 yo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

In 7th grade, I knew a girl who was dating a Senior. That could be a 14 yo and a 19 yo. I'm GenX like you and it was scandalous. It demonstrated how messed up a guy had to be to date someone that soon out of elementary school.

And the french kissing wasn't about Mila, but about Ashton and Danny placing bets on it re: a 14 yo.

If you think the bet between two 19 year old men was who would "french kiss" her first I have a bridge to sell you. The bet was clearly who would get in her pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I posted it, and I was in 9th grade at 14 (until end of October) and a senior could have been 19. But let’s say 18, okay? It would not have been shocking for a senior to date a freshman (which is what I meant I was).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I posted it, and I was in 9th grade at 14 (until end of October) and a senior could have been 19. But let’s say 18, okay? It would not have been shocking for a senior to date a freshman (which is what I meant I was).

Me again. I would now freak out if one of my kids wanted to date with that age gap at those ages- and my kids would be disgusted by the idea (it has come up as one of their friends as a senior brought a sophomore to the prom, and they all found it weird). I was speaking to how I felt it 1990 (and that I don’t feel I was taken advantage of even on reflection). My guess is that Ashton/Mila at those ages were in mid 1990s.

[Anonymous]

I didn’t really have a strong feeling either way about him before, but his support of Danny Masterson told me everything I needed to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I posted it, and I was in 9th grade at 14 (until end of October) and a senior could have been 19. But let’s say 18, okay? It would not have been shocking for a senior to date a freshman (which is what I meant I was).

Me again. I would now freak out if one of my kids wanted to date with that age gap at those ages- and my kids would be disgusted by the idea (it has come up as one of their friends as a senior brought a sophomore to the prom, and they all found it weird). I was speaking to how I felt it 1990 (and that I don’t feel I was taken advantage of even on reflection). My guess is that Ashton/Mila at those ages were in mid 1990s.

When I was in high school in the late 90s, a freshman girl with a senior guy would've been seen as leveling up by the girl in a "wow, she's so mature" kind of way. I was asked out by a junior as a freshman, but turned him down. What I recall was every new class, the older students scouted out the most attractive ones and invited them into their inner circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I posted it, and I was in 9th grade at 14 (until end of October) and a senior could have been 19. But let’s say 18, okay? It would not have been shocking for a senior to date a freshman (which is what I meant I was).

Right, back in the 90s, a senior and a freshman probably raised some eyebrows but it wasn’t unheard of.

But that’s not what happened here. Ashton entered college in August 1996. That same month, Mila turned 13. A year later, on the 70s Show, you have a “never been kissed” 14 year old and a guy who had been to and subsequently dropped out of college. That’s gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t he groom Mila?

Yes.

I don't think so - he hung out with the guys (Wilmer, etc.) and occasionally helped her with her HS science homework. They didn't start dating until after she was an adult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's clearly a victim of sexual abuse as a child and that will mess you up.

You know what? Please don't say things like that unless you have actual proof. You don't know this for a fact. That's a huge thing to say about someone.

Like Brittany spears you want actual evidence. Come on! Children of that generation… lots of victims.

I'm a year and four months older than Ashton and so a child of his generation also. Not everyone was abused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I posted it, and I was in 9th grade at 14 (until end of October) and a senior could have been 19. But let’s say 18, okay? It would not have been shocking for a senior to date a freshman (which is what I meant I was).

Right, back in the 90s, a senior and a freshman probably raised some eyebrows but it wasn’t unheard of.

But that’s not what happened here. Ashton entered college in August 1996. That same month, Mila turned 13. A year later, on the 70s Show, you have a “never been kissed” 14 year old and a guy who had been to and subsequently dropped out of college. That’s gross.

Eh, they were both actors…acting.

ICYMI: all kinds of weird stuff happens on set. The actors and their parents know this going into it.

Plus, I don’t buy the “never been kissed” innocent 14 year old thing. She seemed much more mature than he appeared.

Regardless, the two have been married for a long time now. This really isn’t the scandal some are suggesting it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG that was icky.

That was awful. They were joking about him making out with a 14 year old Mila.

He was 19 to her 14. I am a little older than they are and can say that in my world (suburban NY) no one would have batted an eye toward a couple of those respective ages back then. Plenty of 14 yr old girls had french kissed. I briefly dated a 19 yr old as a 14/15 yr old, and in college dated a senior as a freshman. Even in hindsight with a 50 yr old’s perspective, I would never say I was taken advantage of.

My kids feel like you do - they are horrified if a senior in their HS dates a sophomore. That was probably the most common couple age gap in my HS.

Bullshit. I'm a Gen X'er and this was creepy as all hell in the early 90s. 14 is an 8th or 9th grader, 19 could be a college sophomore. On what planet is a college sophomore trying to bone an 8th grader normal? It's predatory as hell. I think you must be some PR firm to post some crap like this.

I'm also GenX from suburban NY, and agree that a freshman and senior dating was not a huge deal in the '90's. My mother was not a fan of it, and told me the only reason a much older guy goes for a much younger girl is because a girl his age will see through his BS, so I never dated anyone more than two grades ahead of me (freshman to jr, for example).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The articles about how his friends say he is worried Diddy will "lie" about Kutcher's involvement seems like a preemptive strike by an amateur. Most like if Diddy is going to implicate someone, he will have video proof.

I've never liked Ashton, but if I was a big celeb close to Diddy I'd also be worried he would lie about me! I don't fault him for that at all but I tend to skew paranoid/anxious and he may too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t he groom Mila?

Yes.

I don't think so - he hung out with the guys (Wilmer, etc.) and occasionally helped her with her HS science homework. They didn't start dating until after she was an adult.

Speaking of Wilmer, he is really gross. I can't even look at him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a lot of smoke over the years, with Demi Moore and the whispers of him being into some weird stuff, the vehement defense of Danny Masterson and now the P Diddy stuff. Is it know that he’s a bit of a predator himself?

Do you really have to ask? It has always been apparent since he was a teen.