Any predictions on divisions next year - MCSL

[Anonymous]

Wondering the composition of H and I (based on the fact that about half of I is reportedly moving to J)...

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering the composition of H and I (based on the fact that about half of I is reportedly moving to J)...

I:
Kenmont
Potomac Woods
Poolesville
Carderock Springs
Potomac Glen
Glenmont

Kenmont and Poolesville remaining in I.

[Anonymous]

When do the MCSL divisions release to the public. Last year they were out about now.

[Anonymous]

After divisionals

[Anonymous]

And H?

[Anonymous]

Who is the best team in Divisions A, B, C, and D for 2025?

[Anonymous]

What divisions is West Hillandale and Long Branch

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Anonymous wrote:And H?

Inverness
Calverton
Garrett Park
Rock Creek
Tilden Woods
Somerset

[Anonymous]

Collected from posts (and adding last few) -

A (not in order)
Stonegate
Rockville
Potomac
Wildwood Manor
Stonebridge
River Falls

B
Darnestown
CG
Woodcliffe
Bethesda
FV
CCRA

C: TH, FK, CLK // Bannockburn, Glenwood, RE

Division D
Old farm
Robin Hood
MCF
Mohican
Seven Locks
Tanterra

Division E
NW Branch
Conn Belair
Manor Woods
Woodley Gardens
Hallowell
OGC

F
Kentlands
Westleigh
Merrimack
Damascus
Forest Knolls
Cedarbrook

G
Daleview
Olney Mill
MCT
NCC
Palisades
QO

Division H
Inverness
Calverton
Garrett Park
Rock Creek
Tilden Woods
Somerset

I:
Kenmont
Potomac Woods
Poolesville
Carderock Springs
Potomac Glen
Glenmont

J-
Little Falls
Germantown
Washingtonian Woods
King Farm
Arora Hills
Mont Square

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I guess Rockshire is plummeting down hard ...

Not as far as Eldwick. Joe Flaherty captained that ship right to the very bottom of the ocean.

It’s not his fault the communist party took away his pool.

What happened?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just share the actual leaked list here? Curious to know where Hallowell and Regency Estates. Glad to see WM move up. Hopefully they will get humbled enough to have better sportsmanship. Summer swim used to be fun!

There is no leaked list

I’m not the poster with the leaked list, but I know for a fact that certain individuals do receive the list early (late Sunday night after the algorithm is run) so a leaked list is very possible.

Data and algorithm are public. No need to leak

Data are not public until this weekend

Data are the 5 A meet results for each team. They are on the league web site.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just share the actual leaked list here? Curious to know where Hallowell and Regency Estates. Glad to see WM move up. Hopefully they will get humbled enough to have better sportsmanship. Summer swim used to be fun!

There is no leaked list

I’m not the poster with the leaked list, but I know for a fact that certain individuals do receive the list early (late Sunday night after the algorithm is run) so a leaked list is very possible.

Data and algorithm are public. No need to leak

Data are not public until this weekend

Data are the 5 A meet results for each team. They are on the league web site.

No I believe they use the middle time for each meet entry over the 5 weeks to create entry times for every swim in the virtual meet (ie first place 12 and U IM swimmer; 2nd and 3rd places as well). So you have to have the results from all 5 meets to create the entries. They then use those times to run the virtual meets. Then they use the win loss record of the virtual meets to create divisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just share the actual leaked list here? Curious to know where Hallowell and Regency Estates. Glad to see WM move up. Hopefully they will get humbled enough to have better sportsmanship. Summer swim used to be fun!

There is no leaked list

I’m not the poster with the leaked list, but I know for a fact that certain individuals do receive the list early (late Sunday night after the algorithm is run) so a leaked list is very possible.

Data and algorithm are public. No need to leak

Data are not public until this weekend

Data are the 5 A meet results for each team. They are on the league web site.

No I believe they use the middle time for each meet entry over the 5 weeks to create entry times for every swim in the virtual meet (ie first place 12 and U IM swimmer; 2nd and 3rd places as well). So you have to have the results from all 5 meets to create the entries. They then use those times to run the virtual meets. Then they use the win loss record of the virtual meets to create divisions.

What about divisionals? That should count too, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just share the actual leaked list here? Curious to know where Hallowell and Regency Estates. Glad to see WM move up. Hopefully they will get humbled enough to have better sportsmanship. Summer swim used to be fun!

There is no leaked list

I’m not the poster with the leaked list, but I know for a fact that certain individuals do receive the list early (late Sunday night after the algorithm is run) so a leaked list is very possible.

Data and algorithm are public. No need to leak

Data are not public until this weekend

Data are the 5 A meet results for each team. They are on the league web site.

No I believe they use the middle time for each meet entry over the 5 weeks to create entry times for every swim in the virtual meet (ie first place 12 and U IM swimmer; 2nd and 3rd places as well). So you have to have the results from all 5 meets to create the entries. They then use those times to run the virtual meets. Then they use the win loss record of the virtual meets to create divisions.

What about divisionals? That should count too, right?

From the Reach for the Wall article -

Teams are placed in divisions each year based on a computer swim-off using times from the previous season. That is, MCSL (i) creates one virtual team for each MCSL team based on the median times from all five of that team’s dual meets the prior year, and then (ii) runs a virtual meet between every virtual team (similar to how Reach for the Wall runs virtual meets). The team with 90 wins (meaning their virtual team beat every other virtual team in the league) is the top seed of Division A. The team with no wins is the lowest seed in Division 0 (excluding new teams to the league).

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just share the actual leaked list here? Curious to know where Hallowell and Regency Estates. Glad to see WM move up. Hopefully they will get humbled enough to have better sportsmanship. Summer swim used to be fun!

There is no leaked list

I’m not the poster with the leaked list, but I know for a fact that certain individuals do receive the list early (late Sunday night after the algorithm is run) so a leaked list is very possible.

Data and algorithm are public. No need to leak

Data are not public until this weekend

Data are the 5 A meet results for each team. They are on the league web site.

No I believe they use the middle time for each meet entry over the 5 weeks to create entry times for every swim in the virtual meet (ie first place 12 and U IM swimmer; 2nd and 3rd places as well). So you have to have the results from all 5 meets to create the entries. They then use those times to run the virtual meets. Then they use the win loss record of the virtual meets to create divisions.

What about divisionals? That should count too, right?

Times from Divisional’s have no impact as the divisions for the following year become public that day.