You are double counting, nearly all of those posse and questbridge kids are first gen. |
Only a small percentage of those athletes are getting an admission advantage, D3 schools limit coaches to a few sports per team, so maybe 60 to 80 are athletes, but that is likely also too high. |
questbridge probably but not posse.. people here dont know what posse is. no income cap for example. |
About 60 percent of Posse students are first gen, source: Posse website. |
| okay so 60% is a far cry from "nearly all" |
Not really, it still likely that first gen group is made of Posse and Questbrosge students. |
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Half is not nearly all.
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No offense but why are people from NYC privates on our thread? There is a big difference between the NYC privates and our schools.
Is your kid at a top school like Riverdale or Collegiate or at a second tier school? It makes a huge difference. We can't weigh in on your 3.8 GPA without knowledge of the NYC schools. |
because UB and YBM closed. No offense, but "top tier" is a prescribed set of schools in New York. IFKYK. You don't. It's okay. |
| There is indeed a yawning gap between top tier NYC privates and DC privates, but rest assured there are many non-DC people on this board. This is the College and University discussion, not the one for local private schools. |
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Basically he needs to decide about Northwestern or Notre Dame as a top choice for ED1 or REA and can ED2 everywhere else on your list (ok, not Williams, but what kid from NYC wants to move to rural MA unless an athlete).
My DC going to Northwestern with around same GPA and top test scores, including AP exams (our private got rid of the classes but still took the exams to prove knowledge). Did have a national level EC. Came from top DMV private and did ED1, which was critical as a White male. Lots of demonstrated interest shown. NU good for most everything, especially humanities, and in a good part of a big city rather than Hyde Park. They also take close to 20% in ED. If they like your private, which you can tell by looking at your school’s SCOIR data, then consider it! DC also liked Stanford and to me they get similar type students. Good luck! |
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Quite a mix of schools. I’d start by separating the schools by type.
Research Universities Chicago Northwestern Vanderbilt ND Rice Liberal Arts Schools Bowdoin Middlebury Williams Davidson Next, consider the culture and location of these schools. My kid would choose Vanderbilt or Davidson because he’s looking for a non-grind, balanced, and happy student body with excellent academics in a temperate climate. |
| ^^^I should add-took max rigor curriculum including post Calculus BC, Physics C, and all AP level classes Junior and Senior year. |
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Id think deeply about the type of environment he wants. Example:
Uchicago is a great, really hard school. It’s not exactly known for its exciting environment even if it’s in Chicago, because students work like hounds there, and the academic culture is very PhD prep even if you’re going off to industry right after. Bowdoin is also great, really collaborative community school. Bowdoin people work hard, but they also spend a lot of time community bonding (Maine winter on a small campus brings people together). Davidson is another great option, pretty much a rigorous, Greek life school. It’s got heavy grade deflation but students love it there and the Greek life takes over the culture a bit. With North Carolina, you get the sun but you also get the humidity. He should also look at faculty closely. Humanities departments across the board are struggling a bit with their faculty lines, and he should Ed where he has the ability to be taught by important people in his field. For example, if I was an English major today, I’d jump at the opportunity to go to Columbia or Iowa, because they have the best of the best. |
Our experience with Davidson doesn’t quite fit the above portrayal. While it is true that students love the Davidson experience, work hard, and have a Greek life, there is not grade deflation and Greek life is very unlike most Greek schools. Davidson publishes annually an academic profile of its graduating class. For 2024, the average GPA was 3.658 and the median was 3.748. Three quarters of the kids had a GPA above 3.52. As for Greek life, it’s very much Greek-lite. Only 25% of guys join a fraternity and most Greek girls join eating houses. The eating houses are non-rush, non-competitive admissions. Girls input preferences for their self or a group of friends and a computer determines the match. All Greek parties are open to everyone, save the formals. |