Law School Solicitation Wash U

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone wants to work at BigLae but if that’s what you want ($), then WashU looks pretty good to me

https://lawschooli.com/best-law-schools-for-biglaw/

Even this ridiculous source indicates less than half the class at Wash U goes to big law. It’s between 70 and 80 percent at the top schools.

Wash U is one of many solid regional schools. I think it would place well in the Midwest, but not everywhere.

19 out of 186 schools looks pretty good to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone wants to work at BigLae but if that’s what you want ($), then WashU looks pretty good to me

https://lawschooli.com/best-law-schools-for-biglaw/

Even this ridiculous source indicates less than half the class at Wash U goes to big law. It’s between 70 and 80 percent at the top schools.

Wash U is one of many solid regional schools. I think it would place well in the Midwest, but not everywhere.

19 out of 186 schools looks pretty good to me

Because it is pretty good. It's very good.

Whenever there is a thread about law school on here the people-who-know-nothing running their mouths gets even worse for some reason. It's the internet -- the advice is worth what you pay for it. That idiot upthread blathering about how they are getting rid of logical reasoning on the LSAT, lol. What an idiot. They are actually adding an additional logical reasoning section to the lsat in 2024. I hope people don't ever actually rely on anything they read here, lol. But if you do, you have no business in law school anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I'll never understand why people don't google before posting. google LSAT to drop
logic games. it's right there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I'll never understand why people don't google before posting. google LSAT to drop
logic games. it's right there

Or PP but Looks like the LSAT will have two logical reasoning sections

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I'll never understand why people don't google before posting. google LSAT to drop
logic games. it's right there

I didn’t need to Google—I teach LSAT prep, you idiot. “Logic Games” is not the logical reasoning portion of the LSAT. Maybe you could Google before posting? No; you are too busy banging away on your keyboard about things you don’t understand. There will actually be an additional logical reasoning section added to upcoming exams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone wants to work at BigLae but if that’s what you want ($), then WashU looks pretty good to me

https://lawschooli.com/best-law-schools-for-biglaw/

Even this ridiculous source indicates less than half the class at Wash U goes to big law. It’s between 70 and 80 percent at the top schools.

Wash U is one of many solid regional schools. I think it would place well in the Midwest, but not everywhere.

19 out of 186 schools looks pretty good to me

Because it is pretty good. It's very good.

Whenever there is a thread about law school on here the people-who-know-nothing running their mouths gets even worse for some reason. It's the internet -- the advice is worth what you pay for it. That idiot upthread blathering about how they are getting rid of logical reasoning on the LSAT, lol. What an idiot. They are actually adding an additional logical reasoning section to the lsat in 2024. I hope people don't ever actually rely on anything they read here, lol. But if you do, you have no business in law school anyway.

It’s a solid regional school akin to UFlorida, GW, or BU. It won’t offer the same career opportunities as a T14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I'll never understand why people don't google before posting. google LSAT to drop
logic games. it's right there

Or PP but Looks like the LSAT will have two logical reasoning sections

Yes, because one is the real test, the other is a question they are working on, tweaking,etc., for future use. You do not know which one is the true test. Generally, the tougher one is the test they are working on for later use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I'll never understand why people don't google before posting. google LSAT to drop
logic games. it's right there

I didn’t need to Google—I teach LSAT prep, you idiot. “Logic Games” is not the logical reasoning portion of the LSAT. Maybe you could Google before posting? No; you are too busy banging away on your keyboard about things you don’t understand. There will actually be an additional logical reasoning section added to upcoming exams.

What a sad job. And yet you clearly didn't know that the LSAT was dropping logic games at all.

[Anonymous]

WashU has been notorious for allowing you to redact certain parts of your application like your GPA or LSAT. They really want to climb the rankings and tend to take students with a super high GPA/lower LSAT or super high LSAT/lower GPA.

They offer a lot of merit scholarships but St. Louis is a hard sell for many, and the job market in the Midwest for law is not great. They will offer interviews before even applying as a marketing tactic and are aggressive in reaching out to potential applicants to increase their pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wash U Law has been relentless and successful in its efforts to buy its way up the rankings. It overall reputation still lags its ranking though.

Who are you? This is not true at all. They have been thought of as elite for 30 years.

I don't know a single person who considers WashU elite. At all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wash U Law has been relentless and successful in its efforts to buy its way up the rankings. It overall reputation still lags its ranking though.

Who are you? This is not true at all. They have been thought of as elite for 30 years.

I don't know a single person who considers WashU elite. At all.

Undergrad and the Med school, but not the law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes depending where else she gets, she would obviously take a Gtown or something. However if it’s GW vs Wash U giving money (good money) I told her take the Wash.

If and only if Wash U goves money should she consider this. And you should call financial aid and ask about merit if, after the interview, she wants to attend. Wash U is tied at 16 and desperately wants to make T14. To do that, it must report stellar GPAs and/or LSATs which is where your DD comes in. Law schools will offer big bucks for stellar stats. I know of three law students at GMU/Scalia law and others at schools ranked 30 and 4O who chose those options because they were offered free or half ride (Scalia Law is another working hard to run up the rankings).. But it's a trade off. If you want clerking and biglaw you need to focus on full freight T14s. If you just want the degree then go for the $$ scholarships if offered. I'm not saying this is right, but it is the current system due to USNWR.

OP what did your daughter do after graduation? is it something with an "oomph" factor? That can make a difference. And, of course URM and First Gen will help. But, if not, then you are really lookkng at the grades and LSAT to get your DD in.

OP here. Very good advice. She just graduated from a lower tier Ivy with perfect grades. She is taking a year off and is looking for work in the DC area. Likely something related to public policy, Hill, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Thanks I responded to your other post. Yes just graduated and is looking for work. Preferred straight through but it seems T14s now de facto require work experience. She had several offers in NYC at top law firms but turned them down because didn't want to commit to two years. I told her two years is fine if you can be a summer associate there during law school and they bring you back but she said no. Oh well. So she is looking in DC for public policy/Hill, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi my kid just graduated undergrad and took the LSAT. I am a lawyer but nearly 30 years since I graduated. She got an interview request from Wash U saying interview before your LSAT comes back. I don't recall this solicitation campaign when I applied to law school but I was lucky to get in anywhere with my GPA and LSAT lol--lucky the law schools didn't get a restraining order in my case.

Is this a thing? She got a lot of solicitations when applying to undergrad but I recall for undergrad it was basically to boost the school's stats. If it helps, her LSAT is unknown but she went to a lower tier Ivy (Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell). Has near perfect grades (close to 4.0). Assume they asked for her school and GPA when she registered for the LSAT with LSAC.

Thoughts? Appreciate the help.

OP, you say she graduated? just this year? what is she planning on doing in the interim should she want law school? It should have an "oomph" factor as mentioned above. And I assume you know that applicants today use coaches or prep services for a year or more? And that applicants sometimes take the LSAT several times? (you can write off one bad score if you act within a certain time frame). It's nothing like when you and I just purchased or borrowed test prep books and went in and took the exam. Several of my mentees used Spivey. My DD used a private coach. Also be aware that the LSAT is dropping logical reasoning this which is a boon to those not good at logical reasoning

Oh, FFS. The mommies are out here spreading all kinds of inaccurate information. The LSAT is most definitely not "dropping logical reasoning" -- and if you are "not good at logical reasoning" you have no business in law school.

I am OP and my daughter rushed to take the LSAT because of the change after the June test (her second time taking). They are dropping logic games because it was argued it discriminates against those with disabilities. They are actually doubling up the logical reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wash U Law has been relentless and successful in its efforts to buy its way up the rankings. It overall reputation still lags its ranking though.

Who are you? This is not true at all. They have been thought of as elite for 30 years.

I don't know a single person who considers WashU elite. At all.

Says more about you than the school