I agree with Dr Laura.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years ago when Tony Williams was Mayor of DC, one of his White aides said, when referring to budget cuts, that they would have to be "niggardly." He was called a racist and his resignation was called for. This was ignorance on the part of the African Americans who accused this man of using the "n" word. Tony Williams even said that "perhaps his aide should have used another word." Why? Ignorance is pathetic and that is what Tony Williams and other Americans (of whatever race) should have been concerned about.

Howard felt that he had learned from the situation. "I used to think it would be great if we could all be colorblind. That's naïve, especially for a white person, because a white person can't afford to be colorblind. They don't have to think about race every day. An African American does."[1]

Above is a statement made by Mr. Howard.

As I posted earlier the tragedy of this situation was the ignorance of those who thought this word was a variation of the "n" word. Ignorance is not bliss.

Yes, we get the point, but I just thought it would be helpful for people to see that he learned a thing or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

I don't even know if I spellleed "whitey" or "whitie" "honky" or "honkie" correctly but I absolutely certain that misspelling has nothing to do with the point I was making.

[Anonymous]

but I "am" absolutely--does this negate my point too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

And your experience with Whites probably only comes from watching All in the Family re-runs. White people do not think about you daily or how to make your lives miserable. Most people just think about their own family, and how to provide for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

I don't even know if I spellleed "whitey" or "whitie" "honky" or "honkie" correctly but I absolutely certain that misspelling has nothing to do with the point I was making.

NP here. By the way, I *hate* being called a Caucasian. My ancestors do NOT come from the Caucasus. Please refer to me as "white."

[Anonymous]

Anyone who thinks "whitey" or "honky" or "The Man" is an equivalent to the n-word is an absolute idiot, and anyone who is tired of "walking on eggshells" around black people is a RACIST. I am 33 years old and from the deep south. My parents (who are not even 60) did not attend an integrated public school until they were in the 12th grade. If you think that civil rights issues are long gone and in the distant past, you need to wake up.

Treating people with respect and understanding a little bit about our history isn't "walking on eggshells" or asking for special treatment. It's just being a decent human. You should try it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

I don't even know if I spellleed "whitey" or "whitie" "honky" or "honkie" correctly but I absolutely certain that misspelling has nothing to do with the point I was making.

NP here--Your point is that you don't know what the heck you are talking about. You just made up some bull-shit from a 1970's re-runs of SNL perfomred by white actors in white face. You don't know any Black people and you definitely do not socialize with people of color. Crawl back under your rock.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

And your experience with Whites probably only comes from watching All in the Family re-runs. White people do not think about you daily or how to make your lives miserable. Most people just think about their own family, and how to provide for them.

Uh, I am white. There are white people who think about me all the time. The fact that you think that my post must have come from a black person says exactly where your mind is at.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, there is not. People are not genuinely upset about academic discussion of the word. Dr. Laura suggested that the caller should ignore its use as an epithet.

Blacks refer to Caucasions as "whitey," "honky," (sp) and "the Man." These terms are equally insulting to me as a Caucasion but no one has a fit about their use. There is a double standard and I'm tired of walking on egg shells not to offend blacks or other minorities. As another PP said, you want to be equal then stop asking for special treatment.

Your exposure to black people must come primarily from watching re-runs of The Jeffersons or Sanford and Son. And you should learn to spell Caucasian correctly. It doesn't help your case that you can't correctly spell the name of your own race.

I don't even know if I spellleed "whitey" or "whitie" "honky" or "honkie" correctly but I absolutely certain that misspelling has nothing to do with the point I was making.

NP here. By the way, I *hate* being called a Caucasian. My ancestors do NOT come from the Caucasus. Please refer to me as "white."

The peoples of the world are in groups referred to as Races. Caucasian race, White people, a light-skinned race. Neither is African American but you can no longer say anything beginning with the letter "n" as in Negroid Race. I wonder if Sesame Stret has stopped using "n"?

[Anonymous]

BTW pp, not all Caucasians are light skinned or white.

[Anonymous]

This thread needs to stop because it is bringing out the worst in all of us. Calling other people names, accusing them of things and all of this is anonymous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Ive never used the word of care to use it. I did use the example of the double std of things like the use of the word. My main point is that AfricanAmericans are very sensitive and thus seem to be looking for racism under every stone and thus seem to find the illusion of racism even when it doesnt exist.[/b]

I agree. I worked with an African American woman who yelled discrimination and threatened to file grievances with EEOC at every perceived act of discrimination. She managed to have another employee fired because she claimed White empoyee had discriminated against her when said employee asked for ID from African American's husband when he said he was there to pick up package for her and white employee didn't know him.

The sad part of any minority crying discrimination constantly is that those who are truly being discriminaed against are not taken seriously.

Is there any reason someone shouldn't take a claim of discrimination seriously? I think, though perhaps you may disagree, that some women have falsely "cried rape." Just my opinion, but it doesn't make me think I should not take any woman who alleges rape seriously. It just makes me think that there are always people who abuse/game the system to their own advantage. I understand that not everyone makes that distinction. But at the risk of sounding incredibly judgmental, I think people that can't are pretty limited in their thinking.

The concern I have with some of these posts is that some seem to be taking experiences with one black person (or a few black people) and then making generalizations about an entire race. I just don't see that done to/with white people. And I also wonder the extent to which some posters actually interact with black people on a regular basis.

A co-worker of mine was recently telling me a story of her son who was called the "n-word" in kindergarten. We were talking about our kids and school, and she was saying how she was surprised that she had to have "that discussion" with her son at such a young age. I didn't think she was being overly sensitive or crying racism. I just felt sad and speechless.

[Anonymous]

Poor Laura. She's quitting her show at the end of the year. She says she wants her First Amendment rights back, and she can't get that when minorities complain and sponsors start pulling out.

She needs a safe place where she can put blacks, gays, working women, and anyone else in their place without consequence. Where, oh where would she find such a media outlet? Does such a place even exist? A safe place where all the easily-offended viewers and sponsors are already long gone, where the angry conservative can seek and find validation without the inconvenient fact checking, counterpoint, or .. did I say fact checking? Hmmm...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Ive never used the word of care to use it. I did use the example of the double std of things like the use of the word. My main point is that AfricanAmericans are very sensitive and thus seem to be looking for racism under every stone and thus seem to find the illusion of racism even when it doesnt exist.[/b]

I agree. I worked with an African American woman who yelled discrimination and threatened to file grievances with EEOC at every perceived act of discrimination. She managed to have another employee fired because she claimed White empoyee had discriminated against her when said employee asked for ID from African American's husband when he said he was there to pick up package for her and white employee didn't know him.

The sad part of any minority crying discrimination constantly is that those who are truly being discriminaed against are not taken seriously.

Is there any reason someone shouldn't take a claim of discrimination seriously? I think, though perhaps you may disagree, that some women have falsely "cried rape." Just my opinion, but it doesn't make me think I should not take any woman who alleges rape seriously. It just makes me think that there are always people who abuse/game the system to their own advantage. I understand that not everyone makes that distinction. But at the risk of sounding incredibly judgmental, I think people that can't are pretty limited in their thinking.

The concern I have with some of these posts is that some seem to be taking experiences with one black person (or a few black people) and then making generalizations about an entire race. I just don't see that done to/with white people. And I also wonder the extent to which some posters actually interact with black people on a regular basis.

A co-worker of mine was recently telling me a story of her son who was called the "n-word" in kindergarten. We were talking about our kids and school, and she was saying how she was surprised that she had to have "that discussion" with her son at such a young age. I didn't think she was being overly sensitive or crying racism. I just felt sad and speechless.

This is something that is talked a lot within anti-racist circles. The argument is that whites succeed as a group and fail as individuals and while people of color fail as a group and succeed as individuals. What is meant by this is that when individual white people are successful, the positive characteristics related to that success are ascribed to the whole group. When individual white people fail, they are seen as individuals and not representative of the whole group. When a white guy goes postal and shoots up a work place, the conversation is always, "What was wrong with that guy?" or "What happened to him that made him do that?" No one ever says, "What's wrong with white people?" or "There must be something about the music" or "White culture is poisonous." Yet, when the roles are reversed just the opposite happens. When black people succeed, they are seen as individuals. Obama wins the Presidency, but how many people who had a negative perception of black people said, "Hey, maybe I was wrong?" Compare that to when a black guy does something egregious and the response is, "It's the rap music!" or "THOSE people can't control themselves" or "What's wrong with black culture?"