Is Barnard the same as Columbia?

[Anonymous]

The 2 girls I know at Barnard applied there as a back door to Columbia. They didn’t have the stats for Columbia, so they ED to Barnard. I think it is a great strategy if you really want an Ivy and want to be in NYC.

[Anonymous]

They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More to the point, why the F does OP care his neighbor’s daughter characterizes her college? Whether it’s just “Barnard” or “Barnard-Columbia” has exactly zero effect on your life. DCUM obsession with being the self appointed guardian of fencing off certain colleges as “elite” is mind boggling.

Agree, OP is hot and bothered because they feel that neighbor did better.

No, I was asking if it’s the same school and why someone would say they are attending Columbia if they attend Barnard. I figured there must be a reason.



OP

Maybe they are proud to be part of an all-women's college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Totally separate applications.
They didn't get into Columbia.
They got into Barnard.
It's a shame if they say they go to Columbia. Borderline fraud.

I think if they are mentioning Barnard-Columbia in the same breath - they are being fully transparent. If someone wants to challenge them about the nuances of the "Columbia portion", have at it. But they'd come off looking much worse than the student who said Barnard-Columbia in the first place. If you are genuinely curious, you could ask nicely about how the affiliation works.

[Anonymous]

I went there and usually say Barnard and depending on the reaction might say it's the all female school affiliated with Columbia. If the person says nothing or nods and they know it, I don't say the Columbia part.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Columbia and had many friends at Barnard; the two schools socialize quite a bit; I could see how if I were a Barnard student, I might say Columbia just to save the explanation (sometimes people don't know what Barnard is). Both great schools!

When would this ever be the case?

It happens.

Give me one example.

Before I went into the college application process with our eldest, I had heard of Barnard but I had no idea it was affiliated with Columbia. It was just another one of the SLAC's that start with a B.

[Anonymous]

Lot of haters on this thread very obsessed about random 18 year old girls and how they state their school. Odd and sad.

It just comes down what do they say on their resume--if Columbia than that's wrong. But if they say Barnard College of Columbia University or Barnard College, Columbia University--that is moral, ethical, legal, etc.

Like Oxford and Cornell have many colleges. Barnard is part of the larger university so end of story, it is part of Columbia (not sure that is a good thing these days lol).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?

There are many many LACs that people don't know about.

Just say it's an all women LAC in NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?

There are many many LACs that people don't know about.

Just say it's an all women LAC in NYC.

You remind me of one of my kids when they were like 4yrs old - they would think a few steps ahead and predict a conversation in advance and then want to tell others what they were "supposed to have said".

Are you really THAT concerned with exactly what an 18yr old freshman is using to identify her college?

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Anonymous wrote:They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?

There are many many LACs that people don't know about.

Just say it's an all women LAC in NYC.

But it is part of Columbia. Other Seven Sisters are not an official school of an Ivy. If Smith or Wellesley were, I am sure they would say it as well.

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Anonymous wrote:They may just be adding Columbia to Barnard to avoid all the questions about "what is Barnard"?

There are many many LACs that people don't know about.

Just say it's an all women LAC in NYC.

You remind me of one of my kids when they were like 4yrs old - they would think a few steps ahead and predict a conversation in advance and then want to tell others what they were "supposed to have said".

Are you really THAT concerned with exactly what an 18yr old freshman is using to identify her college?

Of course you would be concerned if you are a graduate of "Columbia proper". It's human nature unless you are not a human.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard extension students can say I go to Harvard I guess.

They do.

See,

https://youtu.be/WNV-znbRPa0?si=fIGERNdKXbyOL0-X

[Anonymous]

Not sure what the debate is here? It is proper to say I go to Barnard which is one of the colleges of Columbia University. Again the gate says Barnard College of Columbia University. The degrees says Barnard College Columbia University and is signed by the President of both schools.

The logo has Columbia on it.

They are instructed to say it on resumes and Linkedin. Nothing unethical or immoral.

They were subject to same demonstrators at Columbia.

But again this should only concern those attending and their employers and their grad schools. By the way law schools, I checked mine (Penn) list it as Barnard College, Columbia University. Other Ivies are saying it: https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd/entering-class-profile.php

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is here? It is proper to say I go to Barnard which is one of the colleges of Columbia University. Again the gate says Barnard College of Columbia University. The degrees says Barnard College Columbia University and is signed by the President of both schools.

The logo has Columbia on it.

They are instructed to say it on resumes and Linkedin. Nothing unethical or immoral.

They were subject to same demonstrators at Columbia.

But again this should only concern those attending and their employers and their grad schools. By the way law schools, I checked mine (Penn) list it as Barnard College, Columbia University. Other Ivies are saying it: https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd/entering-class-profile.php

It's so weird for Penn to divide Columbia into different schools, but not to other colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the debate is here? It is proper to say I go to Barnard which is one of the colleges of Columbia University. Again the gate says Barnard College of Columbia University. The degrees says Barnard College Columbia University and is signed by the President of both schools.

The logo has Columbia on it.

They are instructed to say it on resumes and Linkedin. Nothing unethical or immoral.

They were subject to same demonstrators at Columbia.

But again this should only concern those attending and their employers and their grad schools. By the way law schools, I checked mine (Penn) list it as Barnard College, Columbia University. Other Ivies are saying it: https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd/entering-class-profile.php

It's so weird for Penn to divide Columbia into different schools, but not to other colleges.

But it says it is part of Columbia University. It is a college with in Columbia.