dp.. unfortunately, that's the double edged sword of DEI. |
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The seething resentment makes me think of the cultural revolution.
Child is at an Ivy. Happy and thriving, as she has finally found her people. That’s all that really matters to us. |
I am an expert on the Harvard case. Show me where it says that in the data. Half of the black applicants to Harvard that were REJECTED have academic indicators that would have been in the 90th percentile of ACCEPTED APPLICANTS OF ALL RACES. Harvard has like 4 times as many applicants with perfect scores or grades than they have slots. The black students who are admitted to Harvard have extremely strong scores just as many of the black students who are rejected. The problem is that people like you want Harvard to only pick the perfect score students, but there are not enough seats for that and Harvard doesn’t think that perfect score automatically merits admission anyway. |
First, I’m glad your child is happy and thriving. That’s great. But the “finally found her people” remark smacks of condescension, as it implies a certain unicorn quality to the student body. She could have found similarly people at several dozen universities. |
No it isn’t. It’s only like that because people are racist. Both applicants made it through Harvard in this case but you’re judging them on what they may or may not have done 4 years earlier based on nothing but their race. I kind of doubt someone who thinks like this would have some different opinion under other circumstances. You just use DEI as an excuse for your own bias. |
Same. It is a great feeling. |
This is some seriously stereotyped thinking. Some bosses don't like to feel threatened by their "underlings" too and purposefully hire for those who seem more subservient so they won't get shown up. Some have chips on their shoulders about schools too. Just judge people on their merits and don't make up some generalized stories about the "elite" or "state school grads." |
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Every Single Person On This Board Would Jump At Harvard Over George Mason If Your Child Were Admitted And Could Afford It.
This entire post is just more white rage and post-hoc* justification. * def.: after the fact |
Completely agree. He argues that chicago wasn't really elite when he applied in the 90s. That's absurd. I'm 15 years older than Nate and applied only to "elite" colleges back then. I ended up choosing between Chicago and a top Ivy, and ended up going to the Ivy only because it was closer to home. Silver could at least have a little more self-awareness. |
Basically, yeah. |
I think Silver is talking more about ROI than about people's individual preferences. Nobody is going to get admitted to both Harvard and George Mason AND have to pay the same price to attend each one. |
That's not really what he said though. He said it accepted 40% of students which makes it LESS elite than it is now, but acknowledged that the people who applied at the time were self-selecting. He also says: "Even if I had gone to Harvard though — applied, didn’t get in, by the way — I don’t think that would make me a hypocrite because my argument is that this change has been relatively recent and that many of the downstream effects are still to come." |
I hope you don’t have to endure the shame of having a kid at UVA. |
Do you think undergrads at Harvard and Yale are always taught by professors? (They are not. TAs teach a lot of classes to undergrads there.) |
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