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Reply to "Nate Silver: "Go to a state school""
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only data he actually cites doesn’t really support his claim. 1. Public perception of higher education generally has slipped. This doesn’t support the claim that elite colleges are harmed more than state schools. 2. Polls that say private schools are not worth the cost of public. Again this doesn’t distinguish between “elite” and non elite public. Maybe people would say “yes, I wouldn’t pay for Elon but I think MIT is worth it” 3. Harvard perception. The division along political lines suggests that this is a political issue. Republicans voters have been told to hate those east coast liberal colleges and their students. But the average Republican voter isn’t hiring anyone. It would be more interesting to see a poll along socio economic and geographic lines. Do NYC republicans have the same view? That’s more relevant than people in Alabama. Maybe the book will have more information but otherwise this seems like a whole lot of opinion and conjecture for now. [/quote] I'm a hiring manager who has definitely had opinions of elite colleges change over the last few years. Also a graduate of an elite college myself. Should reread his post carefully instead of jumping to conclusions. Silver speaks to everything you raised. [/quote] +1 similarly situated hiring manager. I need people who work hard and listen to other people’s opinions, not people who feel entitled to a top spot because their parents rode them through high school and they prepped well for standardized tests. [/quote] Heard something similar from a research scientist. They said that state grads made better RA than ivy grads who felt cleaning equipment was beneath them, and kept touting how they went to "some elite" college.[/quote] This is some seriously stereotyped thinking. Some bosses don't like to feel threatened by their "underlings" too and purposefully hire for those who seem more subservient so they won't get shown up. Some have chips on their shoulders about schools too. Just judge people on their merits and don't make up some generalized stories about the "elite" or "state school grads."[/quote]
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