Charter vs public (elementary)

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Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1110151.page

Most parents IB for Barnard disagree with you. Barnard has only 30% IB boundary participation rate.

That’s because the MS and HS are problematic so many parents move their kids out in later grades. We loved Barnard and hated to leave, but could not risk MacFarland and certainly not Roosevelt. We lotteried to a WOTP DCPS

No, it's not. You can see where the Barnard-zoned kids are going and it's overwhelmingly not schools with feeder patterns to WOTP middle schools. The top 7 are charter schools and the top DCPS is Dorothy Height, which has the same feeder pattern as Barnard.

This. It’s hilarious all the DCPS boosters on here when the data is all there.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.

Not a mistake at all. You don’t want be this poster:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1195044.page

Except that poster never says whether her DC is at a DCPS or a charter.

It doesn’t matter, you need to think about middle school path since early elementary school. Not thinking about it, is the real mistake.

+1. Absolutely. We were happy in ECE but did lottery again for K for similar or better schools with the middle school path as a factor. Now sitting back and relaxing and in hindsight so glad we did.

If you don’t, your plan B should be moving out of the city which would have been our plan. Lots of options and places where the schools considered mediocre are so much better then in DC.

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Is there any data that shows where kids actually go to middle school after fourth/fifth? The number of families at our EOTP DCPS that are quiet and vague about middle school plans then somehow make their way into Adams or Deal is...impressive. Presumably because they have a condo, friend, or family member with an IB address for their feeder pattern of choice.

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Escape. It is just 2022 but still useful.

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Anonymous wrote:In the last 8 years, Barnard has had the same principal and has been at the same location. During that time, my reputable charter has been through 3-4 building changes, several principals, EDs and other admins. The test scores of the two schools are not that different. And much more favorable for Barnard given that they are working with a greater percent high risk population. In retrospect I’d take the stability of DCPS over my ups and downs at the charter school any day.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1110151.page

Most parents IB for Barnard disagree with you. Barnard has only 30% IB boundary participation rate.

That’s because the MS and HS are problematic so many parents move their kids out in later grades. We loved Barnard and hated to leave, but could not risk MacFarland and certainly not Roosevelt. We lotteried to a WOTP DCPS

Do as I say, not as I do?

I didn’t tell you what to do. I just said that we are IB for Barnard and that it is indeed a great school, but is not a long term choice due to where it feeds.

Did you go to MacFarland and Roosevelt yourself? Your reading comprehension suggests as much.

Personally I find DCPS to be superior to charters given the experiences we have observed of our friends, but luckily we have only attended quality DCPS schools (including Barnard).