Charter vs public (elementary)

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No it’s just DCPS boosters, especially at low performing title 1 schools who lose many families year after year.

Most families who are happy at their school don’t need to come in DCUM and feel the need to put down charters overall

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

Yea, I wouldn't say the majority of DCUM is WOTP, if it is, it is a slim majority. In addition to those communities mentioned above, lots of Cap Hill families at Maury, Payne, Tyler/Chism, Cluster, and JO Wilson especially since renovation is about to start. Lots of families going to SH and EH, and a cohort at Jefferson as well. High school is a combination of private, application, and a slow but steady increase of in boundary but in at Eastern.
Also, I echo what a previous poster said, most of the families I know who left for Two Rivers or Mundo have either come back to DCPS or gone private.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No it’s just DCPS boosters, especially at low performing title 1 schools who lose many families year after year.

Most families who are happy at their school don’t need to come in DCUM and feel the need to put down charters overall

Um nobody came here to put down charters … someone sounds like a booster here and it’s not the ones noting that their IB DCPS is going pretty well.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

That is fine for them, but almost half of kids at Langley scored a 1 on reading and math PAARC and close to zero were even proficient. I don't think test scores are the most important thing, but when there are no kids working at grade level it is a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No it’s just DCPS boosters, especially at low performing title 1 schools who lose many families year after year.

Most families who are happy at their school don’t need to come in DCUM and feel the need to put down charters overall

+1 for example the Langley booster above. When you look at the data of where kids go To school the percentage of IB kids that attend Langley is so low. I
Won’t even talk about PARCC scores because it is sad.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

That is fine for them, but almost half of kids at Langley scored a 1 on reading and math PAARC and close to zero were even proficient. I don't think test scores are the most important thing, but when there are no kids working at grade level it is a problem.

Indeed, but people's willingness to attend Langley indicates some level of satisfaction. 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade seats are available at many area schools and many people could go elsewhere if they wanted to.

Increasing retention is part of how the performance problem is solved. Test scores are a lagging indicator of performance-- the PARCC data you're seeing now was administered almost a year ago. There is a long way to go, but I remember back in 2015-2016 when people wouldn't even go for PK3 and half of those who did didn't stay for PK4. Stats on enrollment, retention, and IB enrollment (absolute number) will improve before PARCC scores do.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

100% agree. The improvements at Langley and Garrison are very, very real. Of course there is a long way to go yet, at Langley, but still. I'm not sure why Mundo, CMI and TR are struggling when ITS, YY, DCB are doing well. Stokes and Lee are kind of in-between. The past few years has really opened people's eyes that charters aren't *necessarily* better, and that you can think you have a good thing locked in and then see it fall apart.

I am sure you know how all this schools are doing/s

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

We are also considering SWWFS and will take a stab at Hardy for middle school, along with SH. I have a DCPS preference, especially after a good elementary experience, but Latin, Basis and ITS seem like they would be just fine and maybe good.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

100% agree. The improvements at Langley and Garrison are very, very real. Of course there is a long way to go yet, at Langley, but still. I'm not sure why Mundo, CMI and TR are struggling when ITS, YY, DCB are doing well. Stokes and Lee are kind of in-between. The past few years has really opened people's eyes that charters aren't *necessarily* better, and that you can think you have a good thing locked in and then see it fall apart.

I am sure you know how all this schools are doing/s

There's plenty of information available if you know where to look. If you feel your school is being unfairly maligned, please feel free to rebut.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

100% agree. The improvements at Langley and Garrison are very, very real. Of course there is a long way to go yet, at Langley, but still. I'm not sure why Mundo, CMI and TR are struggling when ITS, YY, DCB are doing well. Stokes and Lee are kind of in-between. The past few years has really opened people's eyes that charters aren't *necessarily* better, and that you can think you have a good thing locked in and then see it fall apart.

I am sure you know how all this schools are doing/s

There's plenty of information available if you know where to look. If you feel your school is being unfairly maligned, please feel free to rebut.

Thanks, but I know where the info is and I also know how to interpret the data, that is why I don’t believe anything that I read here. I rather look at the data.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

Sorry but you are naive and incorrect. Middle and high school seats at decent schools like are getting more and more competitive every year as more families come up the chain needing seats. More families are being locked out compared to a few years ago.

Forget DCI if you are not in a feeder. Latin and Basis you have a better chance but WL very long.

Truth so many families are looking to get out. SH still does not have the buy in from the best feeder elementary group EOTP (CH schools) and less but in since the pandemic.

Reality is that ECE families today will face even more intense competition in a few years.

If you luck out in the lottery, I would move by 1sr/2nd to good school pyramid

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

That is fine for them, but almost half of kids at Langley scored a 1 on reading and math PAARC and close to zero were even proficient. I don't think test scores are the most important thing, but when there are no kids working at grade level it is a problem.

Indeed, but people's willingness to attend Langley indicates some level of satisfaction. 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade seats are available at many area schools and many people could go elsewhere if they wanted to.

Increasing retention is part of how the performance problem is solved. Test scores are a lagging indicator of performance-- the PARCC data you're seeing now was administered almost a year ago. There is a long way to go, but I remember back in 2015-2016 when people wouldn't even go for PK3 and half of those who did didn't stay for PK4. Stats on enrollment, retention, and IB enrollment (absolute number) will improve before PARCC scores do.

A few pioneer families in the upper grades is not going to change things and neither is it going to change your PARCC scores.

Circle back this summer and we can talk but PARCC scores have actually gotten worst since 2020

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

Sorry but you are naive and incorrect. Middle and high school seats at decent schools like are getting more and more competitive every year as more families come up the chain needing seats. More families are being locked out compared to a few years ago.

Forget DCI if you are not in a feeder. Latin and Basis you have a better chance but WL very long.

Truth so many families are looking to get out. SH still does not have the buy in from the best feeder elementary group EOTP (CH schools) and less but in since the pandemic.

Reality is that ECE families today will face even more intense competition in a few years.

If you luck out in the lottery, I would move by 1sr/2nd to good school pyramid

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One result of increased competition as more families stay in DC for upper grades is that more schools will become acceptable over time. The currently “acceptable” schools are not that way because they have much better teachers. If more schools started reflecting the demographics of their inbound populations because families couldn’t lottery out many more schools will start looking better. This is not going to help in neighborhoods where there is very concentrated poverty but there are many schools whose at risk populations are considerably higher than the inbound neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

To actually answer this question, the IB middle and high schools are McKinley Middle and Dunbar, which are a no go for many people. However, between Latin, Latin Cooper, BASIS, ITS, DCI if you're into that (for the time being), Sojourner Truth if you're into that, and Stuart-Hobson, it's reasonable to think middle school will work out. People with younger kids are hopeful about the new Euclid St middle school, even if living OOB for it. For high school, there are the application schools, Truth if you're into that, a slim shot at Latin and Latin Cooper, and the possibility of MacArthur if you don't mind a long bus ride. So while the situation is definitely not great, it's also not terrible-- I think for preschool and lower elementary age kids, it's very reasonable to stay in the neighborhood for a few years and see what shakes out.

Last year was the first year I've noticed people willing to run the clock at Langley through 4th.

Sorry but you are naive and incorrect. Middle and high school seats at decent schools like are getting more and more competitive every year as more families come up the chain needing seats. More families are being locked out compared to a few years ago.

Forget DCI if you are not in a feeder. Latin and Basis you have a better chance but WL very long.

Truth so many families are looking to get out. SH still does not have the buy in from the best feeder elementary group EOTP (CH schools) and less but in since the pandemic.

Reality is that ECE families today will face even more intense competition in a few years.

If you luck out in the lottery, I would move by 1sr/2nd to good school pyramid

LT is now easily the best performing SH feeder and has 3 classes of 5th graders this year... So, I'd guess easily 40+ kids heading to SH next year. (The grade has 55ish kids, so 40 is a low ball estimate.)

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think DCUM was very pro charter but this thread makes me think the DCPS contingent has won out.

No, DCUM is stridently pro-DCPS. I think this is because DCUM is largely WOTP, where the DCPS's are decent. But then these posters act like they are doing god's work, etc etc etc by supporting unions, blah blah blah.

Nah. There are lots of parents on here who gave DCPS schools like Payne and Garrison and shot and are happy.

This. In Bloomingdale and ended up "pleasantly surprised" (in quotes because every single other PK family said this over and over) with our DCPS school 7 years ago, whereas every family I know that lotteried into MV, CM, and TR has since left the school, sorely disappointed. ITS and Yu Ying seems to be places where families stuck around, though.

What's the IB MS and HS in Bloomingdale and will you be sending your child there.

I mean, right back atcha for charters. With the possible exception of DCI feeders, there’s no charter elementary with a clear path to MS and HS feeders.

This mistake is to send your kids to charters in elementary in hopes of a better middle school path. Your kids will be starting middle school with sub-par academics from their charter. You are better off getting a more solid education and experience at DCPS in elementary and then figuring out middle school when you get there through lottery etc. I’m not quite sure why people are discounting McFarland. The scores may reflect the population rather than academics and teaching quality of teachers. Everyone I’ve spoken to thinks well of teachers and principal.