where is KSAC/RMSC going?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

I’m fine with silver spring. We stuck it out with the bad coach and thankfully now we have good coaches. No, we cannot afford to pay double for another team without removing the kids from other pricy activities. Swim is not the only thing in our home. Now everyone is wealthy at ksac. You can drop off you kid and go shopping, wait on a side street. Lots of options without paying.

I emailed asking about switching sites and never got a response but we don’t want to leave the coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

I think you are correct but it would be nice if they’d let us know. They’ve had several years to plan for this. They will probably move some of it to the outdoor pools but they already have summer swim teams and lessons so that may not work until July or August.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

I think you are correct but it would be nice if they’d let us know. They’ve had several years to plan for this. They will probably move some of it to the outdoor pools but they already have summer swim teams and lessons so that may not work until July or August.

So the advanced groups and senior groups at KSAC (or the MAC for those who know) practice at Bethesda Outdoor Pool for most of their summer practices. The non-advanced junior groups and minis do not practice in the summer, so they won't be impacted until the fall session.

You are right, they had years to plan and the change is 3 months away and there is still no plan. This shows the local government bureaucracy at work. Private clubs are able to act aggressively and expand their pool space but the county moves at a glacial pace. Hopefully they can find a plan that works for most families because the coaches at KSAC have built up the site to be the best in the area and would hate to see it crumble. I think a combination of Wheaton-Glenmont and Old Farm Swim and Paddle Tennis would be the options that would keep the most swimmers registered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

I think you are correct but it would be nice if they’d let us know. They’ve had several years to plan for this. They will probably move some of it to the outdoor pools but they already have summer swim teams and lessons so that may not work until July or August.

So the advanced groups and senior groups at KSAC (or the MAC for those who know) practice at Bethesda Outdoor Pool for most of their summer practices. The non-advanced junior groups and minis do not practice in the summer, so they won't be impacted until the fall session.

You are right, they had years to plan and the change is 3 months away and there is still no plan. This shows the local government bureaucracy at work. Private clubs are able to act aggressively and expand their pool space but the county moves at a glacial pace. Hopefully they can find a plan that works for most families because the coaches at KSAC have built up the site to be the best in the area and would hate to see it crumble. I think a combination of Wheaton-Glenmont and Old Farm Swim and Paddle Tennis would be the options that would keep the most swimmers registered.

This is not fully true. We are seniors and summer was always ksac not Bethesda. Some of the ksac coaches are fantastic, others are not and need to be let go. Wheaton is fine for spring, summer and fall if the new heating system works but not in the winter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:many KSAC jr. swimmers's forms (even some adv jr.) are...well...just diabolical...

This is the funniest thing I've read on DCUM in a long time.

You find a grown a$$ adult making fun of 9 year olds... the funniest thing you've read on DCUM? That's pretty sad...

They are not making fun of the kids. It’s well known the jr coach is really bad and does not teach and correct. She just screams at the kids.

Even their yelling is deafening, I don't think kids can hear anything with caps on and bobbing up and down in the water. Sadly nothing they can do, not just KSAC, other sites are no better.

It's not yelling instructions, the coach is nasty. All the coaches are as loud as they have to be. The bobbing up and down usually calms down by the juniors. It's very coach-specific and it's one specific coach. The coach should have been let go long ago. No one even wants to work with them.

Still not even the worst coach at Rmsc. There’s one at Rockville site (seniors) that is an even worse coach

I think I know who you are talking about. She is THE worst at Rockville.

[Anonymous]

Following this conversation out of curiosity. My children swim in NoVA, so I know very little about RMSC. I keep seeing people referencing private clubs versus RMSC, which has me confused. (While many clubs lease space from public rec centers, I am unaware of any public clubs in NoVA.) Is RMSC a county-run program? How does that work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Following this conversation out of curiosity. My children swim in NoVA, so I know very little about RMSC. I keep seeing people referencing private clubs versus RMSC, which has me confused. (While many clubs lease space from public rec centers, I am unaware of any public clubs in NoVA.) Is RMSC a county-run program? How does that work?

RMSC is a private "non-profit" but they have collaboration with the county and get the use of the pools for free/dominate the county indoor pools. (Summer leagues are run by the county). For the city of Rockville location, it's a collaboration between the county and city so they get even more discounted rates but it's the hardest one to get into. They are cheaper than private clubs that have to rent space, some groups are much cheaper, some not. A few years ago they raised the rates a lot, which made no sense when they are getting the pool time for free. They claimed it was for salaries but some groups have 50-60 kids and 2-4 coaches (a few coaches talked about here as bad are the groups with fewer coaches as no one wants to work with them).

Montgomery County does now allow private swim teams to rent from the county and they have to use/rent private pools through JCC, HOA's, private pools, and some of the private schools that have pools, which makes it much more expensive.

http://rmscswimming.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Following this conversation out of curiosity. My children swim in NoVA, so I know very little about RMSC. I keep seeing people referencing private clubs versus RMSC, which has me confused. (While many clubs lease space from public rec centers, I am unaware of any public clubs in NoVA.) Is RMSC a county-run program? How does that work?

Yes, I believe AAC is a similar model.

And DC Wave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

I hope they figure something out sooner than later. Pretty much every KSAC parent I talk to is on edge and is eager to know one way or another so they can plan accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
These comments remind of one of the great quotes from Yogi Berra: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded"....

Since the RMSC coaching is so bad, all the current families can do is keep paying thousands of dollars every year to keep their kids there and there are over 100 kids trying out for a hand full of slots each summer.

What a topsy-turvy, madcap world we live in!

Yea you, not all of us can afford private teams, especially if kids are in multiple sports or activities. No, you aren’t getting the sports. Earn them like our kids did.

Last I checked, it costs thousands of dollars a year for kids to swim club anywhere, RMSC included, so I'm not buying the "poor house", "can't afford" refrain. And if they end up at Silver Spring, tack another $1k/yr to your burn rate for inconvenient parking.... Nobody is doing all that for "horrible coaching", so I'm calling that a lot of bunk.

I have heard that they may have to go with smaller numbers with their groups depending on where they end up for practice sites and how many swimmers these sites can accommodate so there may even be fewer slots, if any, available during tryouts for next year.

Np. I heard JCC is in consideration?

Who’s going to pay for that?

There has been no update since we were told JCC was under consideration. But, I do know the rental fee at the JCC is very expensive, so my guess is it is an unlikely option.

I believe multiple sites are still in play and the likely outcome will be the use of several facilities, as well as smaller groups.

I hope they figure something out sooner than later. Pretty much every KSAC parent I talk to is on edge and is eager to know one way or another so they can plan accordingly.

I think they will go to the outdoor public pools if they can make it work with the summer team but who knows what they will do come winter. It seems strange to build a brand new pool and not use it for team given the demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Following this conversation out of curiosity. My children swim in NoVA, so I know very little about RMSC. I keep seeing people referencing private clubs versus RMSC, which has me confused. (While many clubs lease space from public rec centers, I am unaware of any public clubs in NoVA.) Is RMSC a county-run program? How does that work?

RMSC is a private "non-profit" but they have collaboration with the county and get the use of the pools for free/dominate the county indoor pools. (Summer leagues are run by the county). For the city of Rockville location, it's a collaboration between the county and city so they get even more discounted rates but it's the hardest one to get into. They are cheaper than private clubs that have to rent space, some groups are much cheaper, some not. A few years ago they raised the rates a lot, which made no sense when they are getting the pool time for free. They claimed it was for salaries but some groups have 50-60 kids and 2-4 coaches (a few coaches talked about here as bad are the groups with fewer coaches as no one wants to work with them).

Montgomery County does now allow private swim teams to rent from the county and they have to use/rent private pools through JCC, HOA's, private pools, and some of the private schools that have pools, which makes it much more expensive.

http://rmscswimming.com

That's factually inaccurate.