Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

Exactly, our kids should be learning course material. Keep the DEI racism at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

Then it’s no point in having this discussion. It’s like speaking to a climate change denier about why we should switch to green energy. We will never find common ground.

There is plenty of evidence that racism still exists within systems in our country. I’m not going to waste my time providing you with any of that evidence because i know you won’t fairly engage with any of it. But these children in schools will one day become adults who also can perpetuate racism intentionally or unintentionally through these systems. Through education we can bring our country closer to the ideals that our founders listed when they created our country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

What other “recourses” do you provide about contentious issues to your employees? Are you handing out Benny Morris re Israel/Palestine? Focus on your effing job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

Then it’s no point in having this discussion. It’s like speaking to a climate change denier about why we should switch to green energy. We will never find common ground.

There is plenty of evidence that racism still exists within systems in our country. I’m not going to waste my time providing you with any of that evidence because i know you won’t fairly engage with any of it. But these children in schools will one day become adults who also can perpetuate racism intentionally or unintentionally through these systems. Through education we can bring our country closer to the ideals that our founders listed when they created our country.

You are racist. Affirmative action is racism. You think non-white people are stupid and need to be coddled and skip standardized tests because they are biased. You are a bigot of low expectations.

[Anonymous]

The only systemic racism in America is affirmative action and DEI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Actually they did provide examples and you ignored them. No point in arguing with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

Then it’s no point in having this discussion. It’s like speaking to a climate change denier about why we should switch to green energy. We will never find common ground.

There is plenty of evidence that racism still exists within systems in our country. I’m not going to waste my time providing you with any of that evidence because i know you won’t fairly engage with any of it. But these children in schools will one day become adults who also can perpetuate racism intentionally or unintentionally through these systems. Through education we can bring our country closer to the ideals that our founders listed when they created our country.

Kids need to learn to do long division. Not spend time talking about how math is racist. Good thing your ideas of indoctrinating kids to keep them dumb is falling way out of fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

Proven examples? The writing is on the wall, these programs are dying out because they are are a useless time suck.

Do you not believe in systemic racism?

These days, no. And what has that got to do with children in schools?

Then it’s no point in having this discussion. It’s like speaking to a climate change denier about why we should switch to green energy. We will never find common ground.

There is plenty of evidence that racism still exists within systems in our country. I’m not going to waste my time providing you with any of that evidence because i know you won’t fairly engage with any of it. But these children in schools will one day become adults who also can perpetuate racism intentionally or unintentionally through these systems. Through education we can bring our country closer to the ideals that our founders listed when they created our country.

Pages and pages of discussions here have explained why DEI doesn’t work in the workplace, and especially have failed in schools. But you are so blindly bound to the DEI koolaid that you refused to open your mind and consider all sides. You’re right, we can’t discuss this because people like you have stuck their heads in the sand and refuse to have a calm discussion without throwing our racist and bigoted names at others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

Are you embarrassed about that now? Because you should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

What other “recourses” do you provide about contentious issues to your employees? Are you handing out Benny Morris re Israel/Palestine? Focus on your effing job.

Focus on your spelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

Now tell us about what your hiring stats look like these days…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

DP. I am a big law partner at a firm that sent a reading list. It was purely as a resource. There were no quizzes.

What other “recourses” do you provide about contentious issues to your employees? Are you handing out Benny Morris re Israel/Palestine? Focus on your effing job.

Focus on your spelling.

How does making fun of dyslexia fit within DEIB?

Is focusing on spelling racist?

Aren’t there “many ways of spelling” and aren’t they all equally valid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, nobody has proven examples of why they are against DEIB in schools. It just seems like a bunch of fragility and racism.

There have been many points. You can’t refute them, so you ignore them.

Personally I don’t want my children taught overt anti-union and anti-labor rhetoric, which is why I am skeptical of most DEI programs, which are profoundly anti-labor.