Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

Yeah no one works their ass off to get their kid into a school that costs between $40k - $60k a year and then pulls their kid out because of a math lesson. These places breed clout for keeping your kid in. The bribes paid to keep little jr. in after she/he is busted for a code violation hasn't stopped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it's such a contentious issue with many of you. The amount of gaslighting and hyperbole that parents are buying into is disgusting and hurtful.

I have not seen a single assignment many of you claim has been included in curriculums. I would blow it off to trolls, but I've heard parents slip and admit that it will factor in their following school selection. They are so threatened by something they know nothing about.

I don't understand why.

I am liberal but against DEIB being taught in school. There’s so much nuance and it’s really tough for kids to understand so they just repeat talking points. My DD talks about white privilege but doesn’t understand what it means - just that she has it and she shouldn’t take advantage of it?! It’s all just someone’s opinion and I’d prefer that my kids have more of a classical education and learn grammar, sentence structure, etc. Frankly teaching DEIB seems lazy on the schools part - teach those kids some hard to learn curriculum!

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why it's such a contentious issue with many of you. The amount of gaslighting and hyperbole that parents are buying into is disgusting and hurtful.

I have not seen a single assignment many of you claim has been included in curriculums. I would blow it off to trolls, but I've heard parents slip and admit that it will factor in their following school selection. They are so threatened by something they know nothing about.

I don't understand why.

I am liberal but against DEIB being taught in school. There’s so much nuance and it’s really tough for kids to understand so they just repeat talking points. My DD talks about white privilege but doesn’t understand what it means - just that she has it and she shouldn’t take advantage of it?! It’s all just someone’s opinion and I’d prefer that my kids have more of a classical education and learn grammar, sentence structure, etc. Frankly teaching DEIB seems lazy on the schools part - teach those kids some hard to learn curriculum!

How is it being taught in school? links to the curriculum your school district uses and the standards they are teaching to it.

Or did they learn that MLK was a human and Medgar Evers was killed. Did your DD learn that when white people did the same thing in the 60s they weren't killed for it - i.e. white privilege and that she can think about what that looks like today?

Can you show me that your children aren't learning grammar and sentence structure (you know from a classical education).

DEIB is lazy. Yeah so lazy you didn't get the lesson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

You sound insane. The PP above was talking about major law firms. No one is making those comments in 2024 and yes you would be fired if you did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

Where was this?

check out p 66: https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

“Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open con- flict. Some math problems may have more than one right answer and some may not have a solution at all, depend- ing on the content and the context. And when the focus is only on getting the right answer, the complexity of the mathematical concepts and reasoning may be underdeveloped, missing opportunities for deep learning.”

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-get-schooled-on-radical-politics

The book uses drawings and worksheets to promote the 13 tenets of the Black Lives Matter movement, under titles like “Queer Affirming,” “Transgender Affirming,” and “Restorative Justice.” Principle number 2, “Empathy,” is described as “engaging comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.”
The coloring book also lists Black Lives Matter’s “national demands,” including “mandate black history & ethnic studies,” “hire more black teachers,” and “fund counselors not cops.”
One parent of a PS 321 fourth grader, whose grandparents fled Communist China before moving to the U.S., said she and her husband were “shocked” that the book used the word comrade—and that it appeared to promote political propaganda.

[Anonymous]

NP. I just don’t like how much of DEI has embraced a wildly misogynist and classist philosophy and approach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

NP. One reason I don’t like DEI is because of how appallingly and casually ageist its proponents are.

[Anonymous]

What the heck is the B at the end for? I assumed OP made a typo, but have they added yet another letter to the stupid acronym?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

NP. One reason I don’t like DEI is because of how appallingly and casually ageist its proponents are.

+1. Also, that PP was responding to me. I’m 43. And African American. :lol:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the heck is the B at the end for? I assumed OP made a typo, but have they added yet another letter to the stupid acronym?

Belonging

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck is the B at the end for? I assumed OP made a typo, but have they added yet another letter to the stupid acronym?

Belonging

Um, okay. I’d like to BELONG to a school that doesn’t waste time on this crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck is the B at the end for? I assumed OP made a typo, but have they added yet another letter to the stupid acronym?

Belonging

Sounds like we now are rehashing something like the self-esteem movement of the 80s.

American kids can barely write coherently and do math. Basic literacy, basic numeracy, people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

And if you are FORCED to read a book and take a test on the book that is the perogative of your employer. The employer might not want your racist a$$ in their workplace; their Black wife; the LGBTQIA CEO; the mixed raced coworker might not like your random snide comments and instead of firing you immediatly they give you grace and go "well he was raised in [insert hick state] so he might not know better. Let's up skill him like we do on a varierty of things like expense reports and sexual harassment training and then he can be a better person to be around."

When they find out you are complaining that you are learning to be a decent human being around people who don't look like you or aren't raised like you you won't need to be complaining about your employer anymore, it will be your former employer.

You don't like that your kid can't call a kid a racist name and is being taught to be a decent human being.

I have a lot of friends like you; they don't talk to their racist parents. So enjoy figuring out medicare by yourself.

NP. One reason I don’t like DEI is because of how appallingly and casually ageist its proponents are.

+1. Also, that PP was responding to me. I’m 43. And African American.

I wonder how long it will be until the PP you responded to claims that you can’t possibly be African American. Even though she is almost certainly white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the heck is the B at the end for? I assumed OP made a typo, but have they added yet another letter to the stupid acronym?

Belonging

Think of all the money the diversity industry consultants and marketing people will make reprinting all their school materials with the new and improved acronym! Everyone wins!