Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

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As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

Because transplants never went to the Key, saw a film in union station and got shows

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people have been talking past each other on this thread.

I think part of it is because one crowd says "just show me where it hurts!" - assuming that without photos of worksheets or lesson plans, etc. it's a big nothing.

Then you have another crowd who's saying, in effect, "it all hurts" - meaning that they don't trust the "DEIB" institution, not that they don't think the English word diversity describes something desirable.

This crowd sees formalized DEIB as a cult, like Scientology, with a palatable front end (Scientology has self-help; DEIB has fairness) that hides some very crazy stuff.

To this crowd, just letting it in the door (schools having DEIB statements and hiring DEIB mandarins) is enough of a mistake, and can be assumed to bring the crazy with it, whether or not their kid has brought home some insane story YET.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people have been talking past each other on this thread.

I think part of it is because one crowd says "just show me where it hurts!" - assuming that without photos of worksheets or lesson plans, etc. it's a big nothing.

Then you have another crowd who's saying, in effect, "it all hurts" - meaning that they don't trust the "DEIB" institution, not that they don't think the English word diversity describes something desirable.

This crowd sees formalized DEIB as a cult, like Scientology, with a palatable front end (Scientology has self-help; DEIB has fairness) that hides some very crazy stuff.

To this crowd, just letting it in the door (schools having DEIB statements and hiring DEIB mandarins) is enough of a mistake, and can be assumed to bring the crazy with it, whether or not their kid has brought home some insane story YET.

Good post.

There certainly is a deeply faith-based and religious aspect to a lot of DEIB. The believers have a hard time understanding why not everyone shares their faith and tenets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people have been talking past each other on this thread.

I think part of it is because one crowd says "just show me where it hurts!" - assuming that without photos of worksheets or lesson plans, etc. it's a big nothing.

Then you have another crowd who's saying, in effect, "it all hurts" - meaning that they don't trust the "DEIB" institution, not that they don't think the English word diversity describes something desirable.

This crowd sees formalized DEIB as a cult, like Scientology, with a palatable front end (Scientology has self-help; DEIB has fairness) that hides some very crazy stuff.

To this crowd, just letting it in the door (schools having DEIB statements and hiring DEIB mandarins) is enough of a mistake, and can be assumed to bring the crazy with it, whether or not their kid has brought home some insane story YET.

Many have also made sensible posts but those don’t get picked up as discussions.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to see more DEIB. Not just the same tropes over and over again, but real inclusion and diversity.

I don't hear enough about Asians. Or Mormons. The experience of recent Cuban, Venezuelan or Nicaraguan immigrants. Or married families with 5+ kids. We need inclusion for those groups, too.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

It is on a philosophical level.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

It is on a philosophical level.

Pretending that prejudices and biases don’t exist doesn’t make them magically go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

It is on a philosophical level.

Pretending that prejudices and biases don’t exist doesn’t make them magically go away.

Pretending that they are everywhere won't either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

It is on a philosophical level.

Pretending that prejudices and biases don’t exist doesn’t make them magically go away.

Pretending that they are everywhere won't either.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

+1000

As someone that was in the DMV in 7th grade that didn't happen here.

Which school?

If you want me to prove my bonafides then all I am going to mention is Kilamanjaro, Tracks, and the Tenleytown Roy Rogers.

Now tell me what schools in the DMV were minimizong slavery in the 80's, 90's, or 00's.

Omg omg kilamanjaros- that and tracks takes me back.

Fifth column and common share

Odeon DuPont south and north w the pillar in the middle of the theater

Don't forget the Biograph!


The point is that the people who are asking if some of the DEI practices are out of balance are local parents. Everyone around here believes in diversity and inclusion but we have concerns about what appears to be an overwhelming focus on identity and racial determinism. Why are we, in DC, acting like our children are growing up in Mississippi?

And there are prolific posters who self-admittedly aren’t from the DC area. Or don’t have kids in private school.

“Overwhelming focus” meaning MLK day and a day of silence?

Yes, and the annoying right wingers do indeed have an agenda and are exaggerating the issue. But that doesn't mean we should reflexively get defensive and double down. Some of the criticisms are legit.

Of course it's not about MLK day. But speaking of which, what happened to "content of their character" as a value. You can't truly believe that everything is perfect?

There were only a very small number of real-life examples. Nothing that justified the level of whining.

MLK’s vision is only possible when prejudices and biases no longer have such a significant impact in our society.

Creating new prejudices and biases by promoting a worldview of racial determinism does not get us closer to that point. Schools and education are supposed to be about promoting a vision of the world that we want not the cynicism of the world that we have.

Ok. That’s not what is happening.

It is on a philosophical level.

Pretending that prejudices and biases don’t exist doesn’t make them magically go away.

Pretending that they are everywhere won't either.

+1000

Also, pretending that some groups are incapable of prejudices and biases is also dishonest and hypocritical. Let's put it all out on the table.