Why do parents have such an issue with DEIB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

It's not happening. I promise that nobody is indoctrinating kids to not be racist. It's weird thing to be bothered about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

It’s not healthy to not want my employer to make friendly suggestions about what my political beliefs or moral positions should be? No, I think that’s perfectly normal, especially when the ONLY topic they “recommend” I educate myself on, with what I consider to be horribly reasoned and morally bankrupt books, is race relations. I’m sure you wouldn’t take kindly to your boss “recommending” you read some evangelical Christian book on traditional values, in connection with, say, the Dobbs decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

Where was this?

check out p 66: https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

“Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open con- flict. Some math problems may have more than one right answer and some may not have a solution at all, depend- ing on the content and the context. And when the focus is only on getting the right answer, the complexity of the mathematical concepts and reasoning may be underdeveloped, missing opportunities for deep learning.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

Not sure where you work, but if you were anywhere near a large law firm in a couple of years ago, you were heavily pressured to read these books in the most uncritical possible way. Speaking from experience, some of them even sent copies of the books to employees to read at home.

So let's say the law firm gave you an anti-racist book to read. I promise you, nobody is sending out quizzes or even thinking about you.

LOL. You’re “promise” is based on nothing and worth nothing. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

It's not happening. I promise that nobody is indoctrinating kids to not be racist. It's weird thing to be bothered about.

Oh sweetie, didn’t you know? It’s not enough to “not be racist.” That’s actually SUPER racist. You have to be “anti-racist.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

It’s not healthy to not want my employer to make friendly suggestions about what my political beliefs or moral positions should be? No, I think that’s perfectly normal, especially when the ONLY topic they “recommend” I educate myself on, with what I consider to be horribly reasoned and morally bankrupt books, is race relations. I’m sure you wouldn’t take kindly to your boss “recommending” you read some evangelical Christian book on traditional values, in connection with, say, the Dobbs decision.

If you find anti-racism political, then that's a problem. Why don't people see that your really problematic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

Are you a bazillion years old and really out of touch with what’s going on? Because it sounds like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is really things like affinity groups, race essentialism, the white guilt complex and a skewed approach to history/social studies that make parents unhappy.

You need to take into account that many of us have now had a lot of experience with DEI programs at work, and that, as residents of DC, we have seen what some of the policy ideas mean for day-to-day life. I know a lot of workplaces all but required people to read books like White Fragility or Kendi books at some point. Those things haven’t left a positive impression, in many cases.

That's probably not true. I am familiar with a lot of places in this city and I haven't heard off anything like that. I know that there are parents here that would believe that. I have no idea why that is.

My workplace absolutely circulated a recommended reading list as part of some dumb pronouncement on a police shooting (one that was actually justified, not George Floyd) with Kendi books on it

So, if this is true, the mere reading list upset you? Nobody told you that you had to read the books. It's was just suggested and that bothered you.

That's not healthy behavior, and I'm not understanding why others aren't seeing it.

It’s not healthy to not want my employer to make friendly suggestions about what my political beliefs or moral positions should be? No, I think that’s perfectly normal, especially when the ONLY topic they “recommend” I educate myself on, with what I consider to be horribly reasoned and morally bankrupt books, is race relations. I’m sure you wouldn’t take kindly to your boss “recommending” you read some evangelical Christian book on traditional values, in connection with, say, the Dobbs decision.

If you find anti-racism political, then that's a problem. Why don't people see that your really problematic?

I’m happy to agree to disagree with you. If you want to follow Kendi off a cliff, have a nice trip down. I see things differently and that’s not a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

It's not happening. I promise that nobody is indoctrinating kids to not be racist. It's weird thing to be bothered about.

Oh sweetie, didn’t you know? It’s not enough to “not be racist.” That’s actually SUPER racist. You have to be “anti-racist.”

It's this right here that wild. This person is complaining that being against racism is an extreme position. I see this a lot and I don't understand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

Are you a bazillion years old and really out of touch with what’s going on? Because it sounds like it.

The Heritage Foundation put out a proslavery curriculum and parents seen to have less issue with that than DEIB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

This also isn't true. But again, I'm sure there are a lot of families that would believe it. Why are they falling for it?

Probably because they see evidence of it in their own schools? A lot of people tried these schools and pulled their kids out based on what they actually observed. But keep pretending that people are just majorly inconveniencing themselves and switching schools for not reason.

It's not happening. I promise that nobody is indoctrinating kids to not be racist. It's weird thing to be bothered about.

Oh sweetie, didn’t you know? It’s not enough to “not be racist.” That’s actually SUPER racist. You have to be “anti-racist.”

It's this right here that wild. This person is complaining that being against racism is an extreme position. I see this a lot and I don't understand

No, that person is pointing out that using the right buzzwords is extremely important to DEI. And basically according to Kendi, who popularized the “anti-racist” term, being anti-racist means specific things that are not just being against racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

Are you a bazillion years old and really out of touch with what’s going on? Because it sounds like it.

The Heritage Foundation put out a proslavery curriculum and parents seen to have less issue with that than DEIB.

No, it didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As someone who remembers their seventh grade teacher trying to convince the class that slaves were happy to be slaves, I am glad that we have evolved.

Oh, and those who are anti-DEI...that is just garden variety racism.

Are you a bazillion years old and really out of touch with what’s going on? Because it sounds like it.

The Heritage Foundation put out a proslavery curriculum and parents seen to have less issue with that than DEIB.

The difference there is that the Heritage Foundation carries no weight with the education establishment, and it’s “curriculum” will never get any traction, save for a couple of fringe places at best. By contrast, DEI is the ruling orthodoxy that has invaded literally every space at this point. Not only that, many organizations now have staff whose job it is to enforce that orthodoxy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same as you OP. I thought DEI pushback was simply racist republicans being racists.

Then I read a proposed curriculum that asserted that Mathematics’ focus on students getting correct answers was indicative of white supremacist culture. I then looked into DEI further and was shocked to discover what is creeping into public school curriculums and lesson plans.

What a well versed troll. Cite your links of how nefarious things are creeping into PS curriculum? Or you can continue to show me you have zero idea how curriculum is designed and adopted.