“Wrap-around services.” Do you agree this is the problem?

[Anonymous]

Prison walls literally wrap around prisoners on all four sides. It's actually one of the few "wrap-around services" that has proven effective at reducing violent crime as opposed to just handing out lavish contracts to well-connected friends and family of DC politicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Generational trauma = Culture

And you can't change culture with wrap-around services. The community has to want to change. How do you promote cultural change in a dysfunctional culture? I have no idea. \

I think it starts by everyone actually admitting that the culture is dysfunctional. Not that we’re forced to celebrate it or we’re racist.

[Anonymous]

Also, if you say that people are kids until age 25 (and therefore can’t be held responsible for their crimes) then they shouldn’t be allowed to raise children independently either. There should be group homes for pregnant young women where there are strict rules and everything is monitored to ensure the babies are being looked after.

[Anonymous]

Sorry it’s the culture.

You can’t fix them until you fix that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry it’s the culture.

You can’t fix them until you fix that.

UBI would fix it. It would teach responsibility.

[Anonymous]

No. Follow the rules of a civilized society or be institutionalized. Stop wasting money on wraparound services and build and maintain humane institutions for those that cannot live by the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry it’s the culture.

You can’t fix them until you fix that.

UBI would fix it. It would teach responsibility.

It would do the exact opposite. DC basically already has UBI with all the free housing, free food, free childcare, free spending money, plus no more policing of antisocial behavior. The skyrocketing violent crime speaks for itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry it’s the culture.

You can’t fix them until you fix that.

UBI would fix it. It would teach responsibility.

It would do the exact opposite. DC basically already has UBI with all the free housing, free food, free childcare, free spending money, plus no more policing of antisocial behavior. The skyrocketing violent crime speaks for itself.

Oh, you misunderstood. It would teach the government and upper class responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry it’s the culture.

You can’t fix them until you fix that.

UBI would fix it. It would teach responsibility.

It would do the exact opposite. DC basically already has UBI with all the free housing, free food, free childcare, free spending money, plus no more policing of antisocial behavior. The skyrocketing violent crime speaks for itself.

Oh, you misunderstood. It would teach the government and upper class responsibility.

You don't make any sense. Bottom line, all the free handouts and leniency is why DC has become such a cesspool of violent crime and vagrancy. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

[Anonymous]

Dads in the home.

Discipline. Accountability.

Learning right from wrong.

Many people around the world grow up in poverty but they are not murdering harmless disabled senior citizens as 12 and 13 year old girls.

[Anonymous]

Work ethic. Work for what you have. Helping out your neighbors. Values. Jobs for 16 year olds. Learn to respect senior citizens. Learn manners. Give back to the community. Respect. Respect others. Respect others property (i.e. cars).

Positive role models. The problem is many who make their way out of some of these housing communities are glad to be out and living in a safer environment and don't give back.

[Anonymous]

Discipline in the schools. Respect for teachers and administrators. Suspensions. Mandatory parent conferences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generational trauma = Culture

And you can't change culture with wrap-around services. The community has to want to change. How do you promote cultural change in a dysfunctional culture? I have no idea. \

The first thing should be for the government to admit that these groups have been wronged. Next, reparations would be a huge step forward in addressing the inequality created by systemic discrimination. After 300 years of reparations, then we can see if we need to do anything else.

Interesting, how do you think reparations will help initiate cultural change? Would giving money to large numbers of people reduce their incentives to work? Or are you saying that if we fund people to stay home with their children they will do a better job raising them? do we have evidence that large welfare states improve societal outcomes?

Giving more money simply lines the pockets of plastic surgeons in Miami. Many fly to Miami for their $6000 plastic surgeries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will wraparound services fix the problem? No. Ending poverty and structural racism is the only thing that will fix the problem. But it might help, whereas increasing criminalization does not help.

I agree. Wrap around services are treating the symptom so will help some but they don't address the true cause of generational poverty and the crime that follows. Universal basic income would help with the poverty.

I have some employees who grew up in generational poverty. They hate their mothers. Their mothers had them at young ages and just yelled at them throughout their childhood. Their mothers become disabled in their 50's through strokes and/or morbid obesity. The government provides free caregivers for their mothers.

At some point personal accountability and working jobs needs to be the priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will wraparound services fix the problem? No. Ending poverty and structural racism is the only thing that will fix the problem. But it might help, whereas increasing criminalization does not help.

I agree. Wrap around services are treating the symptom so will help some but they don't address the true cause of generational poverty and the crime that follows. Universal basic income would help with the poverty.

I have some employees who grew up in generational poverty. They hate their mothers. Their mothers had them at young ages and just yelled at them throughout their childhood. Their mothers become disabled in their 50's through strokes and/or morbid obesity. The government provides free caregivers for their mothers.

At some point personal accountability and working jobs needs to be the priority.

Which is precisely what the Jesuits and Cristo Rey schools teach.

Another idea: adopt a mandatory service for all high school grads. Two paths: two years in the military, or two years doing peace corps-esque jobs domestically in the US. Provide housing, education, and modest pay.

Use high school like the reserves: weekend opportunities to camp and learn skills. Build houses. Whatever.

I think everyone would rather invest in those government programs.