Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

[Anonymous]

I hope the Friendship Heights suspect is not released pending trial (though I'm guess he will be, despite being charged with murder). The suspect in the Days Inn killing was released and has violated the terms of his release multiple times. Last month, he was arrested for attempted murder in PG County.

Don't believe me? Look up the details of the case against Gerald Thomas (accused Days Inn shooter) in the DC court-case lookup. You'll find the following entry:

11/21/2023 Defendant failed to appear / NO BOND Detainer Bench Warrant issued. PSA Katrice Spruill advised that the Defendant was arrested in Prince Georges County, Maryland on 11/16/23 and is being held No Bond with Preliminary Hearing set for 12/18/23 in one matter and Trial set for 1/4/23 in another matter.

Then enter his name in the Maryland court-case lookup and you'll see the attempted first- and second-degree murder charges against him.

Surprised the DC Crime Facts twitter guy hasn't picked up on this yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

How did he get there? Did he pay for his metro ride? Does the car he arrived in have up-to-date plates and no outstanding tickets? What previous charges against him were dropped?

How many broken windows were allowed to remain broken enabling this killer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

How did he get there? Did he pay for his metro ride? Does the car he arrived in have up-to-date plates and no outstanding tickets? What previous charges against him were dropped?

How many broken windows were allowed to remain broken enabling this killer?

As mentioned earlier, they have had a major crackdown on Fare Evasion and have been making gun related arrests (and posting them on Twitter if you need to look!)
I don't have any idea about this persons transportation modality, but I don't know that there is a practical way, or what you would want the council to do, in order to stop someone from driving with outstanding tickets, or an out of state plate. As a bike commuter I would love to get these bad drivers off the road as well, but without reciprocity from MD/VA, there's not many options. I don't think taking away someones license would stop them from getting where they want to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

I mean, why do we even have speeding laws if it's still possible for someone to speed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

I mean, why do we even have speeding laws if it's still possible for someone to speed?

Clever, but it doesn't answer the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

Have you ever been on the Metro? You could set up an industrial scale meth cooking operation in front of the turnstiles and the manager won't say shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

Oh look Janeese Lewis George is here. Hey everyone it turns out that none of our elected leaders bear any responsibility for our out-of-control crime. Helpful reminder: There's only four big cities in this country (Memphis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Cleveland) with worse crime rates than DC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2024/dc-crime-homicide-victims-shooting-violence/

[Anonymous]

Pinto has a common sense bill to fight crime. Hopefully Frumin can be pushed to support it:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/gun-violence-bill-criticized-as-dc-returns-to-stop-and-frisk/65-114a1f32-526c-4ad6-aeed-127a756a95ce

It’s unsettling that when these crime bills are discussed, Frumin’s only concern seems to be that they’re going too far. I imagine he’ll also respond in his usual dismissive manned: “Well, there are many interesting parts, but we have to look into the details and…” He’s been there for a year, the bill was introduced 4 months ago. The guy doesn’t seem to take this issue seriously at all, he only seems to want to get his constituents off his back about it.

Frumin also needs to be pressed on the voucher issue, especially with regard to Connecticut. It’s insane that the city is paying to put violent criminals in these buildings, and then doing nothing when they assault the residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pinto has a common sense bill to fight crime. Hopefully Frumin can be pushed to support it:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/gun-violence-bill-criticized-as-dc-returns-to-stop-and-frisk/65-114a1f32-526c-4ad6-aeed-127a756a95ce

It’s unsettling that when these crime bills are discussed, Frumin’s only concern seems to be that they’re going too far. I imagine he’ll also respond in his usual dismissive manned: “Well, there are many interesting parts, but we have to look into the details and…” He’s been there for a year, the bill was introduced 4 months ago. The guy doesn’t seem to take this issue seriously at all, he only seems to want to get his constituents off his back about it.

Frumin also needs to be pressed on the voucher issue, especially with regard to Connecticut. It’s insane that the city is paying to put violent criminals in these buildings, and then doing nothing when they assault the residents.

our elected leaders get more pissed off about legislation to crack down on crime than they do actual crime. shows you what they really think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

Have you ever been on the Metro? You could set up an industrial scale meth cooking operation in front of the turnstiles and the manager won't say shit.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/48-people-arrested-3-guns-recovered-in-3-day-dc-police-operation/3438369/
https://twitter.com/MetroTransitPD/status/1740403335428218905

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

Oh look Janeese Lewis George is here. Hey everyone it turns out that none of our elected leaders bear any responsibility for our out-of-control crime. Helpful reminder: There's only four big cities in this country (Memphis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Cleveland) with worse crime rates than DC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2024/dc-crime-homicide-victims-shooting-violence/

What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Matt trying to seem plugged in on crime issue. Good work by MPD. Ball is in USAO's court now.

I only see an MPD announcement about the murder arrest. Where are the announcements about the other two crimes?

What are the chances that every single person who perpetuated these crimes would have been locked up had they lived in any other place than DC? I'm putting it at 75 percent.

This killer was completely comfortable carrying an illegal gun throughout DC knowing that he could drive crazy, jump the metro turnstile or do any number of other criminal acts without having a police confrontation that would lead to a gun charge. Now this young woman is dead.

I don't even know what you are talking about. First of all, they've been pretty openly making gun related arrests on metro. Secondly, I don't know how any policy the police have in place would have caught this person with a gun before the shooting. Some of you process trauma by blaming people and while its understandable, it's also really frustrated how much misplaced blame gets passed around.

You’re not intelligent, so this conversation is not for you.

Are you just not sure how to respond? Because I don't think what I said was all that confusing. I'll try rephrasing the question: What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

Oh look Janeese Lewis George is here. Hey everyone it turns out that none of our elected leaders bear any responsibility for our out-of-control crime. Helpful reminder: There's only four big cities in this country (Memphis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Cleveland) with worse crime rates than DC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2024/dc-crime-homicide-victims-shooting-violence/

What council policies would have prevented this person from carrying a gun into a hotel room?

Allowing turnstile jumpers. Allowing fake dealer plates. Mandating cops not pursue suspects. Legalizing unlicensed sidewalk stores.

This all creates an atmosphere of lawlessness where criminals feel impervious to consequences.

[Anonymous]

We'll never know but it seems likely that he has a sealed juvenile record. This does not seem like a "first crime" scenario. If so, what, if any interventions were there? Should there have been monitoring? He was reported as a "missing" juvenile by MPD a few years ago, what services and interventions did he and his family receive?

He turned himself in.

https://wjla.com/news/local/jelani-cousin-ashlei-hinds-washington-dc-hotel-homicide-argument-party-alcohol-intoxication-new-years-day-party-embassy-suites-northwest-tall-witnesses-january-flirt-anger-emotions-charges-accused-witnesses-affidavit-investigation-death-fatal-safety