Ward 3 Crime Meeting w/CM Frumin, USAO Graves and AG Schwab 1/17 6pm Cleveland Park library

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for responding the the DCJL astroturfer.

Has anyone else noticed a change in the defund the police/anti-incarceration folk recently? A few years back they were really pushing the need to get rid of the police and let violent murderers out of prison, promising it'd make us safer. They had to back off that, but a year ago they were still pushing the line that there was no crime problem in D.C., it was exaggerated, or it was happening all over the country.

Now that it's clearly an issue and D.C. is clearly an outlier, they go into these threads and pretend soft on crime politicians like Frumin and JLG are actually touch on crime, or pretend the revised criminal code that the DCJL helped write was actually tough on crime. Then after a few posts they go back to their anti-incarceration spiel and accuse anyone who's worried about crime of being "an overly sensitive snowflake."

I have to take the fact that they're now trying to deceive people and trying to paint anti-incarceration politicians and polices as tough on crime policies means that they know their actual positions are now extremely unpopular with the citizens of D.C.

+1. It’s not easy seeing your progressive fantasies come crashing down around you.

I get Allen and Nadeau who were indoctrinated in the liberal universities and came of age under Obama. I don’t get Frumin. As the old expression goes, he’s old enough to know better.

Wait - indoctrinated how? As republicans? As MAGAs ?

Are you high? Explain to all of us how Nadeau & Allen are republicans or MAGAs.

Sorry; now I see what you mean.

Allen and Nadeau have been indoctrinated into democrat dogma. Have to agree with you there.

“Police are bad, but crime is good.” (seriously- this is what they believe and what they practice).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for responding the the DCJL astroturfer.

Has anyone else noticed a change in the defund the police/anti-incarceration folk recently? A few years back they were really pushing the need to get rid of the police and let violent murderers out of prison, promising it'd make us safer. They had to back off that, but a year ago they were still pushing the line that there was no crime problem in D.C., it was exaggerated, or it was happening all over the country.

Now that it's clearly an issue and D.C. is clearly an outlier, they go into these threads and pretend soft on crime politicians like Frumin and JLG are actually touch on crime, or pretend the revised criminal code that the DCJL helped write was actually tough on crime. Then after a few posts they go back to their anti-incarceration spiel and accuse anyone who's worried about crime of being "an overly sensitive snowflake."

I have to take the fact that they're now trying to deceive people and trying to paint anti-incarceration politicians and polices as tough on crime policies means that they know their actual positions are now extremely unpopular with the citizens of D.C.

+1. It’s not easy seeing your progressive fantasies come crashing down around you.

I get Allen and Nadeau who were indoctrinated in the liberal universities and came of age under Obama. I don’t get Frumin. As the old expression goes, he’s old enough to know better.

Wait - indoctrinated how? As republicans? As MAGAs ?

Are you high? Explain to all of us how Nadeau & Allen are republicans or MAGAs.

Sorry; now I see what you mean.

Allen and Nadeau have been indoctrinated into democrat dogma. Have to agree with you there.

“Police are bad, but crime is good.” (seriously- this is what they believe and what they practice).

More precisely: Police are bad. No police means no crime.

[Anonymous]

If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

[Anonymous]

The DC crime spike has nothing to do with Trump. However, if we don't want him back (and I don't!), then the Democrats had better deal more effectively with urban crime, including in DC. Otherwise, even some people who revile Trump may be swayed by his tough on crime message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DC crime spike has nothing to do with Trump. However, if we don't want him back (and I don't!), then the Democrats had better deal more effectively with urban crime, including in DC. Otherwise, even some people who revile Trump may be swayed by his tough on crime message.

It's funny you say that. I agree. I felt existentially threatened by Trump when he showed dictatorial leanings around the election/Jan 6 so I could not vote for him again. But I also feel existentially threatened by the current crime in DC. I would definitely vote for a DIFFERENT Republican.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

No officers died on 1/6. Now you are just lying.

One officer died the day after because he suffered a stroke completely unrelated to the political protest the day before.

Do you realize you are suffering from delusions, PP? As in: believing in things which never happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

I was told in 2020 that buildings have insurance and it is racist to even concern oneself with property damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

No officers died on 1/6. Now you are just lying.

One officer died the day after because he suffered a stroke completely unrelated to the political protest the day before.

Do you realize you are suffering from delusions, PP? As in: believing in things which never happened?

They’re probably confusing it with the 20 people who were actually killed during the BLM riots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

No officers died on 1/6. Now you are just lying.

One officer died the day after because he suffered a stroke completely unrelated to the political protest the day before.

Do you realize you are suffering from delusions, PP? As in: believing in things which never happened?

If you don't believe 1/6 was an INSURRECTION you are an idiot and a delusional one at that. Political protest my ass. You are a brainwashed cult member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If trump is a hate-mongering violent racist like the media keeps saying,

- then why aren’t trumps followers the ones killing police, carjacking vehicles, burning buildings, looting stores, assaulting innocent people, etc. ??

What make you think they aren't? Also, need we point out the officers who died on 1/6 and the damage done to that building?

No officers died on 1/6. Now you are just lying.

One officer died the day after because he suffered a stroke completely unrelated to the political protest the day before.

Do you realize you are suffering from delusions, PP? As in: believing in things which never happened?

They’re probably confusing it with the 20 people who were actually killed during the BLM riots.

Not to mention: the thousands of innocent police officer injure (many seriously) and the more than one billion dollars in damages. Damage to our economy that is.

But the real victims of the BLM riots? They were killed because “social justice warriors” succeeded in passing ridiculously lax laws which kept criminals on the streets instead of in jail.

Know who the victims tent to be? Women and BIPOC people.

The murder-epidemics in DC, Baltimore, and NYC? Most of the dead bodies belonged to young Black men.

Congratulations BLM! You succeeded in getting young Black men killed in record numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who has heard Frumin speak knows he goes on about "Janeese!" quite admiringly. Her viable challenge from Gore has shifted her rhetoric slightly, Frumin seems oblivious. I'm not sure he even wants the job tbh. He got in talking about W3 for all, bike lanes and pickleball and he shows no genuine action based signs of shifting off that.

They are not going to "seize the day" and move quickly re: crime. They have to hear from "all perspectives" per Matt, meaning DSA and DCJL will pack the room with activists in matching shirts. [b]

The rest of us have to coach our teens re: carjacking strategies and feel worried going to Wegmans in broad daylight. If we are robbed and cooperate, we may still be shot by a teen as is the new trend, or we may be shot at as a mere witness.

NO we do not need to eradicate every human ill before crime can drop. Baltimore, just up 95 is a present day example of what works. Who, when watching The Wire thought that DC would become LESS SAFE THAN BALTIMORE?!!! In the 90s homicides were not happening at the Chevy Chase Pavillion nor were people robbed outside grocery stores in broad daylight in busy areas.

So your thoughts and opinions matter, but not other citizens? Maybe democracy ain't for you

Lol, DSA in the house? People have had since 2017 to let their thoughts and opinions be known, as crime of all types and homicides have increased. DSA/DCJL voices have predominated for the last several YEARS, as you would know had you paid the slightest attention. Hearing rooms packed with one message advocates in matching shirts, some flown in.

In the meantime, DC has become an outlier among major cities with it's crime trends, more homicides than BALTIMORE. Most crime victims in DC are POC and a record number of juveniles have been shot and even killed. That gives normal human beings a sense of urgency but not those who want to use soaring unchecked crime to leverage political goals.

So miss me with your endless yapping and running the clock tactics and attempts to claim all human ills must be extinguished before crime can dip. Baltimore, just up 95 shows that is a lie. Lives are being lost and we are being held hostage while they try to ram through DSA goals with crime as the pretext. Tell the family of the murdered teen girl that what we need is more pontificating and posturing and more talking points drafted by dark money.

It is RACIST to claim that none of these victims matter, we just need W3 apartments for all or guaranteed basic income or more bike lanes before we can lower crime. Baltimore says NONE of that is true.

And if Graves wants to claim it is resources, the lab, etc. that prevented papering, why is it that he can dial the rate up when under pressure/scrutiny? If he could not do the work of his office without more resources, why was he not going to media and DOJ? Why is it that prosecution rates were consistently over 70% before 2017 with frequent lab issues, etc. in DC, but then plummeted to roughly 33%? He gets them over 50% when the spotlight is on or he has been called up to the Hill.

Violent and dangerous people of all ages are frequently not charged, even for gun crimes. If charged, they are plead down and often put on pre-trial release with no meaningful supervision or consequences for failing to comply with terms of release or attend court dates. Catch and release emboldens criminals and allows them to continue to prey in the community, especially in W7 & 8.

Isn’t DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) the outfit of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez of “the Squad?”