Just how much effort did the Middletons make to ensure Kate married William?

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

DP but I think she's more hands on then not.

Ok and? Lots of mothers around the world manage to be both hands on and actually work. And they're not supported by taxpayers.

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Anonymous wrote:Who actually cares? Fairy tale romances are fiction. There was no love potion or Imperius curse forcing William under a spell to marry her. Whatever she brought to the table, he was attracted to it, and it's not like he's a knave who's never heard of the concept of gold-digging. He chose her, he wanted to marry her, and nobody could force him, not Carole Middleton or anyone else. They seem happy and stable together and have normal children and Kate knows her role and plays it well. What else matters?

120 years ago William would have been forced to choose from a queen-determined menu of Protestant aristocracy or matched up with one of Nicholas II's daughters when they were all still children or something. The last vestiges of those strictures doomed his own parents to misery. However he and Kate started, it's become real, or she's doing such an excellent job at the fakery that there's no functional difference. Women have tried to make matches like this literally since human history began to assure their own security and that of their offspring, I'm not going to condemn Kate for doing the same thing. They're trucking along fine, so more power to them.

I actually think part of Kate's value to the BRF is that she serves as a model for future heir's marriages. I think they've learned there are real benefits to bringing actual outsiders, in the form of "commoners", into the family, as long as they are fully bought into the family and understand their role. It allows the family to fill these roles from a much bigger pool, which makes it easier for the heir to select someone they actually like, while also finding someone with the right personality and disposition for the job. One of the problems they ran into with Charles was that they literally ran out of aristocrats for him to marry. That's why they landed on Diana and no one was happy with how that turned out. By expanding his search beyond nobility, William likely found a better suited partner than he ever could have otherwise.

I think viewing it as a job that people essentially apply for is smart. Yes yes, they'll always treat it as a fairy tale with the wedding and pomp and circumstance. But everyone understands -- it's a job. Plus bringing in a commoner actually makes it seem democratic instead of what it actually is. It's just the buff up the BRF needed, right when it needed it.

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

DP but I think she's more hands on then not.

Ok and? Lots of mothers around the world manage to be both hands on and actually work. And they're not supported by taxpayers.

Right lol. She has nannies and a staff to help her.

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She first saw him when he came to her school for a hockey match. Probably had her first crush and then again bumping into him at uni probably rekindled it.

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Anonymous wrote:Who actually cares? Fairy tale romances are fiction. There was no love potion or Imperius curse forcing William under a spell to marry her. Whatever she brought to the table, he was attracted to it, and it's not like he's a knave who's never heard of the concept of gold-digging. He chose her, he wanted to marry her, and nobody could force him, not Carole Middleton or anyone else. They seem happy and stable together and have normal children and Kate knows her role and plays it well. What else matters?

120 years ago William would have been forced to choose from a queen-determined menu of Protestant aristocracy or matched up with one of Nicholas II's daughters when they were all still children or something. The last vestiges of those strictures doomed his own parents to misery. However he and Kate started, it's become real, or she's doing such an excellent job at the fakery that there's no functional difference. Women have tried to make matches like this literally since human history began to assure their own security and that of their offspring, I'm not going to condemn Kate for doing the same thing. They're trucking along fine, so more power to them.

Excellent post.

And it's always been long known in Britain that Will was attracted to Kate in part because of the Middleton family. He appreciated the warm security they provided as a family, the parents have a close and loving marriage, and the family's quiet upper middle class suburban environ was a relief from the world of palaces and protocol. To this day they spend a lot of time with the Middletons.

Your comment about changing protocols for royal marriages likely flew over the heads of most people on here. And I'll also add to that the some of most successful and popular British monarchs are the ones who embodied the middle class virtues of their times, rather than the aristocracy. George III and Queen Charlotte were mocked by the aristocracy as dull and boring but they raised a large and happy family and embodied the virtues of the middle class Georgians. Same with Queen Victoria and the middle class Victorians. And I have noticed that much of Will and Kate's public personal is subtly (or not so subtly) tinged with the symbols of middle class Britain rather than aristocratic. They dress and behave very much in line with prosperous suburban home counties families, which is where Kate is from, FYI.

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A divorced aging actress traveling overseas to get a wealthy British hunk and arranging a romance with an emotionally fragile, insecure, unemployed druggie spare prince whose wealthy girlfriends rejected him, sounds way more manipulative than a teen girl's crush on a handsome prince who lived in her college dorm.

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Anonymous wrote:A divorced aging actress traveling overseas to get a wealthy British hunk and arranging a romance with an emotionally fragile, insecure, unemployed druggie spare prince whose wealthy girlfriends rejected him, sounds way more manipulative than a teen girl's crush on a handsome prince who lived in her college dorm.

How pathetic is Kate that she can't even have her own thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

DP but I think she's more hands on then not.

+1 She seems like a very good mom. You can tell by their interactions that she's hands on.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t it be both an advantages marriage but also one where love blossomed? If you’ve done any research at all, you’d learn that even the more reputable sources ( Tina Brown) have discovered that Carole and Kate aggressively pursued William. It is also well known, that despite gossip to the contrary, William appears to be incredibly fond of the Middletons and loves Kate. Did he reportedly have a wandering eye when they were younger? Allegedly, but, he would always come back to Kate and felt safe and loved in the close-knit package of her family. His attraction to Kate had a lot to do with her normal and happy upbringing. It also helped that she and her family were accepting of and in fact perhaps keen to do whatever needed to be done for their daughter to marry a prince!

The aristos like Diana herself would be too self important to take the job seriously or put up with the limelight and pressure. Kate has a sense of humility and gratefulness about her role and plays her part admirably and with great intensity.

Lastly, Kate is beautiful, mentally stable, smart, ambitious and a good mom. All the qualities I’m sure made her a good match for William.

This is a case of both can be true. Either way, they seem happy.

You have never experienced real love if you write something like this.

This response is silly.

DP. No it's not.

Let me just tell you one thing: if you actually fall in love with someone, you will never admire a celebrity marriage again. You will see through it for what it is. Because now you know what real love is, and you see through the illusions that desperate, lonely celebrity fans cannot.

How old are you and what is your ethnicity? I am half envious of such conviction and passionate intensity. Are you religious, as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

DP but I think she's more hands on then not.

+1 She seems like a very good mom. You can tell by their interactions that she's hands on.

So she gets a pass for working for the taxpayer because she's a hands on mom?

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

Do you actually think that the extent of her work begins and ends with each public appearance/work event? Haven't you considered that she very likely is involved in behind-the-scenes research, organization, planning, preparation, etc. for her various causes and events, all of which constitute working?

I doubt anyone here knows her well enough to state that she only works when the public sees her at an event.

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

Do you actually think that the extent of her work begins and ends with each public appearance/work event? Haven't you considered that she very likely is involved in behind-the-scenes research, organization, planning, preparation, etc. for her various causes and events, all of which constitute working?

I doubt anyone here knows her well enough to state that she only works when the public sees her at an event.

How do I say this nicely?

Wills and Kate aren’t known as extremely ambitious (outside of Kate’s social striving, that is). Hard work isn’t something either of them are known for. They’re known to be pretty lazy, TBH.

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

Do you actually think that the extent of her work begins and ends with each public appearance/work event? Haven't you considered that she very likely is involved in behind-the-scenes research, organization, planning, preparation, etc. for her various causes and events, all of which constitute working?

I doubt anyone here knows her well enough to state that she only works when the public sees her at an event.

Good lord. Each and every one of her events is a matter of public record. Do you really think a woman who counts a meeting and a phone call as an event is doing more behind the scenes? All of that "preparation" you talk about ALREADY IS COUNTED.

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

Do you actually think that the extent of her work begins and ends with each public appearance/work event? Haven't you considered that she very likely is involved in behind-the-scenes research, organization, planning, preparation, etc. for her various causes and events, all of which constitute working?

I doubt anyone here knows her well enough to state that she only works when the public sees her at an event.

DP but oh wow, do you really think Kate is doing any of the "behind-the-scenes" work for any of her patronages? Girl, no. At most she might get briefed on the event and the organization before she goes to these things, but it's called a "brief" for a reason, and it's her team who will put it all together and tell her just what she needs to know.

Kate is not sitting up at night crunching numbers on some children's charity and trying to figure out how much they need to raise this quarter, or even picking out floral arrangements for some luncheon she's hosting. She is being presented with menus of choices and pointing at what she wants, and then the giant machine of people around her is scurrying off to make it happen.

Are there really people who think Kate's just a supercharged version of the PTA president at your kid's school. Nope. She is a lady who is lunching and doing some light parenting in the evenings with the help of multiple nannies, a chef, and a housekeeper. She's got a private secretary, multiple maids and assistants, plus a PR team with her husband. I'm sure she "keeps busy" but it's hanging out with her family and friends, overseeing projects at her homes and gardens, that kind of think. Her life would look like 90% leisure to you or I, but they have to pretend it's "work" to keep the plebes happy.

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

Do you actually think that the extent of her work begins and ends with each public appearance/work event? Haven't you considered that she very likely is involved in behind-the-scenes research, organization, planning, preparation, etc. for her various causes and events, all of which constitute working?

I doubt anyone here knows her well enough to state that she only works when the public sees her at an event.

How do I say this nicely?

Wills and Kate aren’t known as extremely ambitious (outside of Kate’s social striving, that is). Hard work isn’t something either of them are known for. They’re known to be pretty lazy, TBH.

The laziest! The funniest scenes in the Crown to me are all the times when they are all just sitting around on couches at Buckingham or Windsor or Balmoral, drinking tea and talking $hit. This is really what royals do all day! To pretend otherwise is just naive.