Just how much effort did the Middletons make to ensure Kate married William?

[Anonymous]

How come Kate is even thinner than she was in college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who actually cares? Fairy tale romances are fiction. There was no love potion or Imperius curse forcing William under a spell to marry her. Whatever she brought to the table, he was attracted to it, and it's not like he's a knave who's never heard of the concept of gold-digging. He chose her, he wanted to marry her, and nobody could force him, not Carole Middleton or anyone else. They seem happy and stable together and have normal children and Kate knows her role and plays it well. What else matters?

120 years ago William would have been forced to choose from a queen-determined menu of Protestant aristocracy or matched up with one of Nicholas II's daughters when they were all still children or something. The last vestiges of those strictures doomed his own parents to misery. However he and Kate started, it's become real, or she's doing such an excellent job at the fakery that there's no functional difference. Women have tried to make matches like this literally since human history began to assure their own security and that of their offspring, I'm not going to condemn Kate for doing the same thing. They're trucking along fine, so more power to them.

Very well said. Also they've been together half their lives at this point. They seem like a very normal, long-tethered couple to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How come Kate is even thinner than she was in college?

It’s a different kind of thin. She was younger and had a much fuller face ie goodbye collegen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t understand the Kate and Will hate.

I like Kate without William

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

[Anonymous]

Don't you peasants have some fields to plough?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

Eh. If I had to starve myself to stave off the critics, deal with the a**holes that are clearly in their narcissistic social circle, and have the same relationship dynamics with William that I had when we were dating...I consider that punishment. Maybe she doesn't because she's also a narc.

As someone who went no contact with her dysfunctional family, you couldn't pay me enough to put up with the Windsors on a regular basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

Eh. If I had to starve myself to stave off the critics, deal with the a**holes that are clearly in their narcissistic social circle, and have the same relationship dynamics with William that I had when we were dating...I consider that punishment. Maybe she doesn't because she's also a narc.

As someone who went no contact with her dysfunctional family, you couldn't pay me enough to put up with the Windsors on a regular basis.

I wonder if she would do it over again if she had the chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

Eh. If I had to starve myself to stave off the critics, deal with the a**holes that are clearly in their narcissistic social circle, and have the same relationship dynamics with William that I had when we were dating...I consider that punishment. Maybe she doesn't because she's also a narc.

As someone who went no contact with her dysfunctional family, you couldn't pay me enough to put up with the Windsors on a regular basis.

I wonder if she would do it over again if she had the chance.

Now this is an interesting question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

Eh. If I had to starve myself to stave off the critics, deal with the a**holes that are clearly in their narcissistic social circle, and have the same relationship dynamics with William that I had when we were dating...I consider that punishment. Maybe she doesn't because she's also a narc.

As someone who went no contact with her dysfunctional family, you couldn't pay me enough to put up with the Windsors on a regular basis.

I wonder if she would do it over again if she had the chance.

I'm sure like all women who ended up with spouses they hate, she loves her kids and can't imagine life without them. But for sure she made a Faustian bargain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The new season of the Crown seems to shed light on the Kate and Wills story again and I’m curious what people think. Just how much of a social climber was Kate?

I've heard this season in particular is nauseatingly inaccurate and extremely fictionalized to pander to Netfix's typical audience.

When the ghost of Diana appeared this series jumped the shark, and that was before any of this Will/Kate nonsense.

You can write off the end of the series, but don’t do it until after you watch episode 8, about Margaret. It’s a masterpiece.

+1
It really was well done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

I'm a mom to three young children and I manage to do more than 127 work "events" a year, all without a full time staff! Most of her events are either phone calls or showing up for an hour and taking a photo.

I truly, truly cannot imagine sticking up for the BRF in the year 2023. Hope those boots taste good!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carole Middleton spent a LOT of money trying to impress the castle-owning set for years throughout Kate's pursuit of William.

She would turn up at aristo picnics with a really luxe hamper from Harrods, while all the other aristos were eating basic ham-and-cheese sandwiches and sneered at her try-hard Harrods hamper.

At one point, when Kate didn't get an invite from William to stay with his family for Christmas (this was well after the college years), Carole Middleton RENTED A STATELY HOME for the Middletons to have their own desperate Castle Christmas.

This is just some of the stuff we know about. But it's absolutely clear to be that this match was engineered and manipulated into happening. William broke up with Kate multiple times to chase after other girls, including girls who actually came from royal or noble families. For whatever reason, those attempts didn't work out.

But there was Kate, always willing to be the puppet he wanted, always willing to zealously watch his polo matches even though she was allergic to horses and then give him a play-by-play breakdown of his athletic feats after the match. This is the kind of attention he wants from his wife, and people who attended these polo matches reported that Kate didn't even take breaks to eat food.

She said she had to notice everything about William's game so she could have a conversation about it with him afterwards.

Some f**king love story.

Kate and her mother have always been pathetic social strivers.

Now Kate is stuck in a marriage with an ill-tempered cheater.

She's definitely earning her paycheck, so to speak.

I would say the old adage "when you marry for money you earn every cent" applies but Kate doesn't actually do any work, so. I guess having to be in his presence is work enough.

I think compulsory public appearances and the constant scrutiny and criticism count as work, along with being a hands-on mom to three young kids.

Serious question: Do you think she’s hands on with the kids?

DP but I think she's more hands on then not.