UVA decisions are out

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!


In or out of state?


DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.


Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.


Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.


They can pay in-state tuition at JMU, VCU, etc.


You are missing the obvious. These are top stats kids who can't access the best in-state schools in Virginia.


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My friend's daughter got into UVA today from TJ.

UVA does not reject all kids from TJ, but apparently becoming more and more selective.


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Anonymous wrote:Does UVA reject anyone?

Yes,for some strange reason all students from TJ !
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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!


In or out of state?


DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.


Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.


Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.


really sorry but what does "yield protect" mean? we completely agree - in the same boat. Really wish VA colleges gave more preference to in-state students. cannot afford to pay out of state college fees !


I’ll preface by saying that yield protection isn’t a factor with ED, because those applicants have already committed to acceptance if they receive an offer.

Colleges want a minimal number of rejected offers, to boost their appearance of desirability. If they think that a high stats applicant would accept a “better offer” over them, they just don’t make the offer to begin with. This is called protecting their yield.


State flagships don't do this.


Not true. State flagships absolutely do this. Explain to me how my DS two years ago was wait listed at OOS flagship but got into Ivies.


Because flagships limit oos admissions, this isn’t rocket science.


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Anonymous wrote:I had two kids go to UVA. I always think it’s funny when I read about kids being rejected. That means my kids are better.


very weak troll attempt.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!


In or out of state?


DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.


Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.


Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.


They can pay in-state tuition at JMU, VCU, etc.


You are missing the obvious. These are top stats kids who can't access the best in-state schools in Virginia.


Speaking strictly about academics and no other admissions criteria. Saying “top stats” kids without knowing what classes are on the kid’s transcript is almost meaningless as far as UVA is concerned. There are plenty of fluff AP and IB classes that enable a kid to be a “top stat” kid yet not have the courses on the transcript that UVA wants to see. That makes Naviance scattergrams for UVA almost useless. I've had 3 DCs attend/attending UVA in the past 5 years (and one rejected), including a current first year and every year UVA gets more and more selective. “Top stats” with the “right” classes gives a kid a shot at admission but is no guarantee. It sucks for plenty of families hoping their very smart kid gets in but that’s reality.
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DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is a rationalization created by parents of rejected students. This is binding ED, genius. No yield management needed.
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The problem is that when grade inflation and superscoring allows 20 to 30 percent of a grade to be top stats, some kids are really not as top as others.
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Anonymous wrote:Hearing of some “normal” ACHS kids getting in.


South Arlington and only certain kinds, though?


WTF are you talking about?


+ 1 South Arlington kids go to Wakefield. And what “certain kinds” of normal kids are you talking about?

Congratulations to those admitted today.


Isn’t Wakefield where all those fentanyl deaths happened recently?
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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!


In or out of state?


DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.


Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.


Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.


They can pay in-state tuition at JMU, VCU, etc.


LOL tell that to a white or chinese kid who was rejected with (truly) top stats. You better hope you intermarried with another background.


You don't get to decide what they're looking for. Perhaps they want less attitudes like this.


I don't care but I would suppose VA taxpayers care.

VA taxpayers have already voted on this: underfund UVA and let superior oos students foot the bill.
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Anonymous wrote:DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is a rationalization created by parents of rejected students. This is binding ED, genius. No yield management needed.
The yield protect argument is meaningless in the case of Early Decision.
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Anonymous wrote:Hearing of some “normal” ACHS kids getting in.


South Arlington and only certain kinds, though?


WTF are you talking about?


+ 1 South Arlington kids go to Wakefield. And what “certain kinds” of normal kids are you talking about?

Congratulations to those admitted today.


Isn’t Wakefield where all those fentanyl deaths happened recently?


Is that supposedly a reason why UVA would care?

ACHS used to be TC Williams. It’s former principal went to Wakefield. ACHS is the only HS in the City of Alexandria.
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Anonymous wrote:Hearing of some “normal” ACHS kids getting in.


South Arlington and only certain kinds, though?


WTF are you talking about?


+ 1 South Arlington kids go to Wakefield. And what “certain kinds” of normal kids are you talking about?

Congratulations to those admitted today.


Isn’t Wakefield where all those fentanyl deaths happened recently?


I would say kids graduating from this school should get a bump in admissoons, if this is the case. They got good grades, despite the shock, sadness of loosing classmates.
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Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted as well. Is the year at Wise a consideration for those waitlisted also? It’s so far away lol.

Was just talking about this with my WL son. He sees it as a potential path at the moment.


Clinch Valley is a joke.
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“High stats” does not always equal rigorous course load across all five subjects.

People need to stop talking about “my high stats kid…..” because that never tells the whole story.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!


In or out of state?


DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.


This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.


Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.


Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.


They can pay in-state tuition at JMU, VCU, etc.


You are missing the obvious. These are top stats kids who can't access the best in-state schools in Virginia.


+1000


In the name of "diversity" - in light of UVA's terrible past. I suppose anyone can concoct a "diversity" story.
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