UVA decisions are out

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.

really sorry but what does "yield protect" mean? we completely agree - in the same boat. Really wish VA colleges gave more preference to in-state students. cannot afford to pay out of state college fees !

I’ll preface by saying that yield protection isn’t a factor with ED, because those applicants have already committed to acceptance if they receive an offer.

Colleges want a minimal number of rejected offers, to boost their appearance of desirability. If they think that a high stats applicant would accept a “better offer” over them, they just don’t make the offer to begin with. This is called protecting their yield.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.

really sorry but what does "yield protect" mean? we completely agree - in the same boat. Really wish VA colleges gave more preference to in-state students. cannot afford to pay out of state college fees !

I’ll preface by saying that yield protection isn’t a factor with ED, because those applicants have already committed to acceptance if they receive an offer.

Colleges want a minimal number of rejected offers, to boost their appearance of desirability. If they think that a high stats applicant would accept a “better offer” over them, they just don’t make the offer to begin with. This is called protecting their yield.

State flagships don't do this.

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I know someone who came off the waitlist last year from a FCPS. Legacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Waitlist =soft rejection

My niece was waitlisted a couple of years ago and then accepted RD.

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I noticed they didn’t say how many were waitlisted. Is it a huge number?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Isn’t that the case with most top colleges? Maybe they can identify the students who did everything for the sole reason of going to an Ivy League including tutors, counselors, coaches, parents, no real passion for anything . They can also identify the students who lived their teen years pursuing what they loved to do, no matter how unusual. Even if that meant not having a million AP courses. Who knows.

Kids can only do their best and they’ll find their way.

[Anonymous]

I think Dean J has explained that it’s the entire package. It’s not just stats. While grades are important they are looking for a package that represents the kind of student they want at UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Do you even understand what yield protection means? You can not yield protect in the EDround because those you accept are required to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.

You can’t yield protect in the ED round.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.

really sorry but what does "yield protect" mean? we completely agree - in the same boat. Really wish VA colleges gave more preference to in-state students. cannot afford to pay out of state college fees !

I’ll preface by saying that yield protection isn’t a factor with ED, because those applicants have already committed to acceptance if they receive an offer.

Colleges want a minimal number of rejected offers, to boost their appearance of desirability. If they think that a high stats applicant would accept a “better offer” over them, they just don’t make the offer to begin with. This is called protecting their yield.

State flagships don't do this.

Not true. State flagships absolutely do this. Explain to me how my DS two years ago was wait listed at OOS flagship but got into Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing of some “normal” ACHS kids getting in.

South Arlington and only certain kinds, though?

WTF are you talking about?

+ 1 South Arlington kids go to Wakefield. And what “certain kinds” of normal kids are you talking about?

Congratulations to those admitted today.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was rejected last year - top 10% of class, 34, national awards, club president, varsity captain, 13AP mostly 5’s. We applied for FA. Kid got in an elite school in RD with very generous aid. So, it could be a good thing to be rejected or deferred by UVA. Good luck!

In or out of state?

DP here. I know top VA students who have been rejected, similar stats. Some posters insist UVA does not yield protect, but in all my years, I have seen differently. If UVA thinks you will pick a "higher" school, they will not admit you. Also, schools are not supposed to communicate with each other about whom they choose, but there is some degree of understanding, such that other schools accept in lieu of. Again, this is not supposed to happen, but I have seen it.

This is something people tell themselves to feel better. My high stats dd was deferred last year and the kids who got in all had even higher stats.

Not necessarily true. We can see the Naviance scattergrams for our school. There was no rhyme or reason to the acceptances. Some students with higher GPA/SAT were rejected while students with lower GPA/SAT were accepted. Not sure I would call it yield protection but UVA definitely does a “wholistic” review. Maybe the lower stat kid solved world hunger - who knows, but definitely higher stat kids get rejected in favor of lower stat kids within the same school even.

Same! And what sucks is a lot of these donut hole families need in-state tuition!! They can’t pay $90k/year even if they get in a higher ranked university- do it’s presumptuous to yield protect like that.

really sorry but what does "yield protect" mean? we completely agree - in the same boat. Really wish VA colleges gave more preference to in-state students. cannot afford to pay out of state college fees !

I’ll preface by saying that yield protection isn’t a factor with ED, because those applicants have already committed to acceptance if they receive an offer.

Colleges want a minimal number of rejected offers, to boost their appearance of desirability. If they think that a high stats applicant would accept a “better offer” over them, they just don’t make the offer to begin with. This is called protecting their yield.

State flagships don't do this.

Not true. State flagships absolutely do this. Explain to me how my DS two years ago was wait listed at OOS flagship but got into Ivies.

Because flagships limit oos admissions, this isn’t rocket science.

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I had two kids go to UVA. I always think it’s funny when I read about kids being rejected. That means my kids are better.

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I think Dean J has explained that it’s the entire package. It’s not just stats. While grades are important they are looking for a package that represents the kind of student they want at UVA.

They also accept plenty of development kids (parents big contributors or still involved with UVA) during ED, despite grades/curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Early Decision Applications
Total number of Early Decision applications: 4,465 (4,243 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 2,573 (2,250)
Total number of OOS apps: 1,893 (1,993)
We use completed applications in our statistics.

Early Decision Offers
Overall offers: 1,133 (1,040)
Total VA offers: 782 (30% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 351 (18.5% offer rate)
Enrollment Goal: ~3,900

Seriously? That’s a pretty high acceptance rate.

Sounds encouraging until you look at your kid’s FCPS high school and realize that 2 percent of class was admitted last year across all three cycles.