Would you be pleased if your child had a 156 IQ?

[Anonymous]

I think people are confusing those stupid internet "LEARN YOUR IQ IN 10 SHORT MINUTES!!!!" tests with an IQ test given by a licensed psychologist. There is a big difference. The latter is among the most well-researched topics in psychology/psychometrics.

My kid had one done through the school in order to qualify for an IEP (learning disabilities). That's actually how we found out she has a learning disability- her IQ was 'high average' (114 - I think 80th ish percentile) but her reading scores were way lower than you'd expect for someone with that IQ (more like 10th-15th percentile).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are confusing those stupid internet "LEARN YOUR IQ IN 10 SHORT MINUTES!!!!" tests with an IQ test given by a licensed psychologist. There is a big difference. The latter is among the most well-researched topics in psychology/psychometrics.

My kid had one done through the school in order to qualify for an IEP (learning disabilities). That's actually how we found out she has a learning disability- her IQ was 'high average' (114 - I think 80th ish percentile) but her reading scores were way lower than you'd expect for someone with that IQ (more like 10th-15th percentile).

Well nobody on dcum would ever boast about having a 114 IQ

[Anonymous]

Like you said OP, I'd be glad but worry that the child would never have a normal life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How much of the problems stem from parents and teachers neglecting the whole child? Like, the kid is so academically strong nothing else is seen as a problem?

LOL do not assume that high IQ= academically strong.

But as to your point, it is always a problem when the whole child is neglected for some aspect of the child, and that does happen in the case of exceptional talents. However, high IQ is highly correlated with anxiety. Not predictive, but there is a correlation. https://psychcentral.com/anxiety/recent-research-links-anxiety-with-higher-iq

High IQ does not equal success all the time, correct. Plus there are only 1% of the population over 140 so nothing to worry about there. Especially if IQ was taken under 12 years old. That’s when the test scores show higher.

And those kids on tv with supposed IQs off the chart and can do work way above their age? When they reach a certain age they are on equal footing with their peer group and aren’t so special anymore and they tend to be depressed with defeatist attitudes.

I’ll take the hardworking dedicated student who won’t give up with an average IQ any day.

I think this number is pretty accurate, but people need to recognize that 1% of the population is a lot of people. In a school with 1K kids, assuming an average distribution, that's 100 kids. I would guess that many commenters on this thread do need to manage the issues of high IQ children.

First, your math is off by a factor of 10. 1% of 1K is 10.

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Your school almost certainly is far from average distribution. It's already clustered.

Third, if you go to 145 or 150, it's down to 0.1% and 001%

I don't believe a lot in "IQ", some I've seen what cognitive panels look like and I understand math, and being better at something doesnt mean "can't productively interact with someone less able", but this accounting applies for any measure of "outlierness".

Forget IQ. If your kid can't find "their people", you have deep challenges.

Ha, you're right sorry about my math. I don't quite understand the paragraph about not believing in IQ. Do you mean specifically IQ's relationship between being able to find people who you can relate to? I agree with your statement that being better at something doesn't mean "can't productively interact with someone less able." It probably applies a lot in a workplace, but not necessarily in your personal life. My daughter is really bright (IQ 142) and has a lot of friends who aren't exceptionally smart, and they just talk about stuff like fanfic and their teachers. My point about high IQ being more common than people on here seem to think was more about how I don't think people on DCUM are exaggerating.

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Anonymous wrote:Child may struggle due to his assumptions that other people’s minds work like his. Speaking with a friend about this we realized that we both have really strong memories and we can see pictures in our minds from our textbooks etc. We both assumed everyone else can do this too which makes for some interesting moments in our study groups in high school, college etc. (me: “Just close your eyes. Now what do you see?” Them: um, nothing.)

If the high IQ is paired with impairment in theory of mind, then yes. This isn't inevitable, and for some people with high IQ it is perfectly obvious to them that others' minds aren't working the same way theirs do.

This whole discussion is bizarre...yet another DCUM circle jerk about measurement of intelligence.

[Anonymous]

It's sad how defensive people are. None of this is about bragging.

I am someone who has not had a successful, easy life and I've often tried to figure out why. My only diagnosed "condition" is very high IQ, but I also have terrible anxiety, perfectionism and hypersensitivity. No one thought I needed any support or help as a child because I aced every test and got a perfect score on the SAT. It was assumed I would do great things and, well, I haven't at all. I'm genuinely looking for advice about how to uncouple these issues and do better with my own kids, one of whom has intense intellectual precocity. Also trying to understand what scores are likely to correlate with problems irl.

[Anonymous]

My special need kid has a ton of diagnosis without medication and his IQ is 130. They tell me that if he is on medication, his score may be higher than that because his attention span is so low. He is smart. Well, he has asd, adhd & so on. School is easy to him, and he just goes to school to play every day. And, I tell him to have fun to play at school, and learn through play. I wish he is just an average joe with average IQ, and I don't have to take him to see private weekly speech, ot & psycho appointment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My special need kid has a ton of diagnosis without medication and his IQ is 130. They tell me that if he is on medication, his score may be higher than that because his attention span is so low. He is smart. Well, he has asd, adhd & so on. School is easy to him, and he just goes to school to play every day. And, I tell him to have fun to play at school, and learn through play. I wish he is just an average joe with average IQ, and I don't have to take him to see private weekly speech, ot & psycho appointment.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad how defensive people are. None of this is about bragging.

I am someone who has not had a successful, easy life and I've often tried to figure out why. My only diagnosed "condition" is very high IQ, but I also have terrible anxiety, perfectionism and hypersensitivity. No one thought I needed any support or help as a child because I aced every test and got a perfect score on the SAT. It was assumed I would do great things and, well, I haven't at all. I'm genuinely looking for advice about how to uncouple these issues and do better with my own kids, one of whom has intense intellectual precocity. Also trying to understand what scores are likely to correlate with problems irl.

The metrics that we measure success by (degrees from prestigious institutions, prestigious careers at prestigious institutions, prestigious outputs, and wealth) require intelligence but after a certain point other characteristics/personality traits are more important than additional IQ points. That's what every study on this topic seems to suggest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot of you are taking an internet IQ test because only 0.02% of people are in the IQ ranges you all claim.

The DCUM circle of life:

DC is where everyone smart in the world lives. And their kids are the smartest and they go to the best schools where there is a ton of grade deflation (because everyone is a genius, if you’re following) and then if colleges don’t accept all of the genius kids it’s because everyone else is hooked or had better hooks and the college counselors didn’t work hard enough. But all the kids are geniuses and so are the parents. And it makes sense because so many smart people live in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess a lot of you are taking an internet IQ test because only 0.02% of people are in the IQ ranges you all claim.

The DCUM circle of life:

DC is where everyone smart in the world lives. And their kids are the smartest and they go to the best schools where there is a ton of grade deflation (because everyone is a genius, if you’re following) and then if colleges don’t accept all of the genius kids it’s because everyone else is hooked or had better hooks and the college counselors didn’t work hard enough. But all the kids are geniuses and so are the parents. And it makes sense because so many smart people live in DC.

But they are all funny-looking and have social defects

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My special need kid has a ton of diagnosis without medication and his IQ is 130. They tell me that if he is on medication, his score may be higher than that because his attention span is so low. He is smart. Well, he has asd, adhd & so on. School is easy to him, and he just goes to school to play every day. And, I tell him to have fun to play at school, and learn through play. I wish he is just an average joe with average IQ, and I don't have to take him to see private weekly speech, ot & psycho appointment.

My average Joe has an IQ of 102 and has psychosis and ADHD. Average isn't always better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My special need kid has a ton of diagnosis without medication and his IQ is 130. They tell me that if he is on medication, his score may be higher than that because his attention span is so low. He is smart. Well, he has asd, adhd & so on. School is easy to him, and he just goes to school to play every day. And, I tell him to have fun to play at school, and learn through play. I wish he is just an average joe with average IQ, and I don't have to take him to see private weekly speech, ot & psycho appointment.

My average Joe has an IQ of 102 and has psychosis and ADHD. Average isn't always better.

Is psychosis and an IQ of 102 average? Hmmm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are confusing those stupid internet "LEARN YOUR IQ IN 10 SHORT MINUTES!!!!" tests with an IQ test given by a licensed psychologist. There is a big difference. The latter is among the most well-researched topics in psychology/psychometrics.

My kid had one done through the school in order to qualify for an IEP (learning disabilities). That's actually how we found out she has a learning disability- her IQ was 'high average' (114 - I think 80th ish percentile) but her reading scores were way lower than you'd expect for someone with that IQ (more like 10th-15th percentile).

Psychologists do not seem even remotely qualified to assess someone's intelligence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think people are confusing those stupid internet "LEARN YOUR IQ IN 10 SHORT MINUTES!!!!" tests with an IQ test given by a licensed psychologist. There is a big difference. The latter is among the most well-researched topics in psychology/psychometrics.

My kid had one done through the school in order to qualify for an IEP (learning disabilities). That's actually how we found out she has a learning disability- her IQ was 'high average' (114 - I think 80th ish percentile) but her reading scores were way lower than you'd expect for someone with that IQ (more like 10th-15th percentile).

Psychologists do not seem even remotely qualified to assess someone's intelligence.

Huh? Why not?