America was founded on religious freedom; why do atheists want to ban organized religion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

This is 100% strawman as PP says nothing about meat on Fridays. That is a really pathetic discussion technique and you should be ashamed of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

Why would PP eat meat on Fridays? What an odd comment.

[Anonymous]

^ wouldn’t

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

[Anonymous]

Wut?

I’m starting to see why you believe in supernatural stuff…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

Yet you’re the most obsessed person posting here, and you’re the primary poster introducing toxic themes. I don’t know if this is the only way you have of getting even a few crumbs of attention in an anonymous forum. It’s possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

Yet you’re the most obsessed person posting here, and you’re the primary poster introducing toxic themes. I don’t know if this is the only way you have of getting even a few crumbs of attention in an anonymous forum. It’s possible.

So you are antisemitic. It’s not a surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

Why would PP eat meat on Fridays? What an odd comment.

If you know, you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

Yet you’re the most obsessed person posting here, and you’re the primary poster introducing toxic themes. I don’t know if this is the only way you have of getting even a few crumbs of attention in an anonymous forum. It’s possible.

So you are antisemitic. It’s not a surprise.

Lol And you’re possibly psychotic. Not a surprise. Or maybe you’re just nasty and attention seeking. Shrug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

Yet you’re the most obsessed person posting here, and you’re the primary poster introducing toxic themes. I don’t know if this is the only way you have of getting even a few crumbs of attention in an anonymous forum. It’s possible.

So you are antisemitic. It’s not a surprise.

Lol And you’re possibly psychotic. Not a surprise. Or maybe you’re just nasty and attention seeking. Shrug.

Anti-Jewish posters become defensive, and call other people names, when they are discovered. That explains your post above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many posts here attack organized religion and call it evil and the source of evil in the world. People as recently as yesterday have posted they wish they could ban organized religion.

Why do these posters (atheists, anti-theists) not realize our entire country is based upon religious freedom? They are admitting openly they are in direct opposition of the express wishes of our country’s founders and our constitution and laws? Or do they realize and just don’t care?

Also, if you look at countries that limit religious freedom, you see a pattern of government control that makes said country extremely dangerous and authoritarian to live in, it’s not good. If you think organized religion is evil, why are the countries that limit or basically outlaw religion such terrible places to live?

If you are an atheist or anti- theist who thinks organized religion is evil, and you would like to ban organized religion, how do you feel about our forefathers (who thought religious freedom was extremely important) and the emphasis our laws place on religious freedom and liberty?

You are an idiot religious creep

Atheists are not the problem it’s the religious right. Which you know because that is you.

I had to endore religious garbage in public school my whole life where was my religious freedom? I wasn’t Catholic and my whole town but three families were. Do you know how awful that was!

Then as an adult living in NC my kids had to deal with it too. We moved to MD to get away from that shit being shoved down our throats. Yes this happened.

And your boys are now trying to kill women and keep them barefoot and pregnant so take your religious crap and shove it.

You didn't get to eat meat on Fridays? How awful. You truly have suffered.

+1 drama queen tantrum

millions of slaves around the world wish they and their children could be free, have safe, drinkable water, food, and shelter. American atheists and anti-theists don’t care about the millions of enslaved slaves on the planet right now, they spend their time whining about the Jewish people of antiquity owning slaves. I wonder if those people are casually inserting antisemitism into the conversation and want to connect the dots between Jewish people in the Bible owning slaves to the Jewish people that bankrolled the Atlantic slave trade and owned black slaves in America?

“A tenured professor in Wellesley's Department of Africana Studies, Martin assigned to one of his classes portions of the book, which singles out Jews for special prominence in the Atlantic slave trade and for having played a particularly prominent role in the enslavement of Africans in the Americas.

Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: "Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole." The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/


Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did.

A number of wealthy Jews were also involved in the slave trade in the Americas, some as shipowners who imported slaves and others as agents who resold them. In the United States, Isaac Da Costa of Charleston, David Franks of Philadelphia and Aaron Lopez of Newport, Rhode Island, are among the early American Jews who were prominent in the importation and sale of African slaves. In addition, some Jews were involved in the trade in various European Caribbean colonies. Alexandre Lindo, a French-born Jew who became a wealthy merchant in Jamaica in the late 18th century, was a major seller of slaves on the island.

According Eli Faber, a historian at New York City’s John Jay College, Jews were more likely than non-Jews to own slaves, but on average they owned fewer of them.

I don’t know if the people obsessed with posting about slavery being endorsed in the Bible are antisemitic, it’s possible.

Yet you’re the most obsessed person posting here, and you’re the primary poster introducing toxic themes. I don’t know if this is the only way you have of getting even a few crumbs of attention in an anonymous forum. It’s possible.

So you are antisemitic. It’s not a surprise.

Lol And you’re possibly psychotic. Not a surprise. Or maybe you’re just nasty and attention seeking. Shrug.

Anti-Jewish posters become defensive, and call other people names, when they are discovered. That explains your post above.

Great! So you’re both insane AND wrong. Good to have diverse perspectives, I guess, even when they’re as twisted as yours seem to be. Again: shrug.

[Anonymous]

Stop responding to obvious troll post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not an atheist. I am extremely concerned that many people now believe that their own freedom of religion can be used politically and legally to limit the freedoms of those of us who do not share their particular brand of religious beliefs. This is both dangerous and contrary to the freedoms that the founders of this country intended. Many religious beliefs and behaviors are indeed evil — and parts of this country are rapidly becoming, as you put it, terrible places to live for many of us.

Your appeals to “our” forefathers don’t move me very much. The ideals that this country was founded upon are extremely important. As a Black female, though, I get that my freedom and Liberty and that of most of MY forefathers — on any level, from physical to religious— wasn’t on their list of priorities. Evil is still evil — no matter how many flags you wave or Bibles you clutch.

Exactly. Freedom of religion means that the government shouldn’t force religion on others. Religious people have unethically - and unconstitutionally - been using the government to force their beliefs on others.

If anyone should be complaining about religious freedom right now, it’s the millions of oppressed people who’ve had their rights taken away from them by religious extremists.

You are wrong and live in a country where you are allowed complete freedom because we are a Christian nation. You ignore millions of slaves worldwide in non-Christian countries and the authoritarian anti- religious countries you would never want to live in for 10 minutes.

US is a deist nation not a Christian nation.

Built on a genocide perpetrated by Christians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not an atheist. I am extremely concerned that many people now believe that their own freedom of religion can be used politically and legally to limit the freedoms of those of us who do not share their particular brand of religious beliefs. This is both dangerous and contrary to the freedoms that the founders of this country intended. Many religious beliefs and behaviors are indeed evil — and parts of this country are rapidly becoming, as you put it, terrible places to live for many of us.

Your appeals to “our” forefathers don’t move me very much. The ideals that this country was founded upon are extremely important. As a Black female, though, I get that my freedom and Liberty and that of most of MY forefathers — on any level, from physical to religious— wasn’t on their list of priorities. Evil is still evil — no matter how many flags you wave or Bibles you clutch.

Exactly. Freedom of religion means that the government shouldn’t force religion on others. Religious people have unethically - and unconstitutionally - been using the government to force their beliefs on others.

If anyone should be complaining about religious freedom right now, it’s the millions of oppressed people who’ve had their rights taken away from them by religious extremists.

You are wrong and live in a country where you are allowed complete freedom because we are a Christian nation. You ignore millions of slaves worldwide in non-Christian countries and the authoritarian anti- religious countries you would never want to live in for 10 minutes.

US is a deist nation not a Christian nation.

Built on a genocide perpetrated by Christians.

Only 8 of the Founding Fathers can be called deist. How does that make the US a deist nation?

But at least you admit all FF believed in God.

The US was built on genocide perpetrated by Christians? Native Americans committed genocide against other Native American tribes through tribal warfare. They took members of the conquered tribe as slaves. Sometimes they adopted the slaves into their tribe, and the adopted persons were forced to leave their previous name and tribal identity behind. They became a new member of their (forced) adoptive tribe, given a new name, were forced to marry a member of their new (forced) adoptive tribe, etc. They were never allowed to see their families again, even if their family had survived the attack their (forced) adoptive tribe had perpetrated.

Other captured members of the conquered tribe were killed, after being tortured. Or made lifelong slaves and treated like slaves, underfed, forced to beg for shelter, raped at will, etc.

“The significance of warfare varied tremendously among the hundreds of pre‐Columbian Native American societies, and its meanings and implications changed dramatically for all of them after European contact. Among the more densely populated Eastern Woodland cultures, warfare often served as a means of coping with grief and depopulation. Such conflict, commonly known as a “mourning war,” usually began at the behest of women who had lost a son or husband and desired the group's male warriors to capture individuals from other groups who could replace those they had lost. Captives might help maintain a stable population or appease the grief of bereaved relatives: if the women of the tribe so demanded, captives would be ritually tortured, sometimes to death if the captive was deemed unfit for adoption into the tribe. Because the aim in warfare was to acquire captives, quick raids, as opposed to pitched battles, predominated. Warfare in Eastern Woodland cultures also allowed young males to acquire prestige or status through the demonstration of martial skill and courage.”

Each tribe had their own rules and customs to perpetrate warfare and violence against other tribes, varying by tribe and geographic region.

It’s quite simple to examine the customs and cultures in Mexico, Central, and South America, and see how the Native people in those areas committed widespread and devastating genocide against their enemy tribes (other Native people) and the massive atrocities committed by Native people against other Native people. Like wiping out entire villages, and taking anyone they wanted to be sacrificed ritually in ceremonies to appease and please their various gods. Entire tribes killed/taken prisoner to become slaves or sacrificed. They were used as slaves until they died from starvation and illness/injury/overwork. Or they were killed in rituals as human sacrifices.

It’s so convenient to ignore these facts, but you are.