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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m not an atheist.[b]  I am extremely concerned that many people now believe that their own freedom of religion can be used politically and legally to limit the freedoms of those of us who do not share their particular brand of religious beliefs.  This is both dangerous and contrary to the freedoms that the founders of this country intended.[/b] Many religious beliefs and behaviors are indeed evil — and parts of this country are rapidly becoming, as you put it, terrible places to live for many of us.

Your appeals to “our” forefathers don’t move me very much. The ideals that this country was founded upon are extremely important.  As a Black female, though, I get that my freedom and Liberty and that of most of MY forefathers   — on any level, from physical to religious— wasn’t on their list of priorities.  Evil is still evil — no matter how many flags you wave or Bibles you clutch.

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Exactly. Freedom of religion means that the government shouldn’t force religion on others. Religious people have unethically - and unconstitutionally - been using the government to force their beliefs on others.

If anyone should be complaining about religious freedom right now, it’s the millions of oppressed people who’ve had their rights taken away from them by religious extremists. 
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You are wrong and live in a country where you are allowed complete freedom because we are a Christian nation. You ignore millions of slaves worldwide in non-Christian countries and the authoritarian anti- religious countries you would never want to live in for 10 minutes. [/quote]

US is a deist nation not a Christian nation.

Built on a genocide perpetrated by Christians.

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Only 8 of the Founding Fathers can be called deist. How does that make the US a deist nation?

But at least you admit all FF believed in God.

The US was built on genocide perpetrated by Christians? Native Americans committed genocide against other Native American tribes through tribal warfare. They took members of the conquered tribe as slaves. Sometimes they adopted the slaves into their tribe, and the adopted persons were forced to leave their previous name and tribal identity behind. They became a new member of their (forced) adoptive tribe, given a new name, were forced to marry a member of their new (forced) adoptive tribe, etc. They were never allowed to see their families again, even if their family had survived the attack their (forced) adoptive tribe had perpetrated.

Other captured members of the conquered tribe were killed, after being tortured. Or made lifelong slaves and treated like slaves, underfed, forced to beg for shelter, raped at will, etc.

“The significance of warfare varied tremendously among the hundreds of pre‐Columbian Native American societies, and its meanings and implications changed dramatically for all of them after European contact. Among the more densely populated Eastern Woodland cultures, warfare often served as a means of coping with grief and depopulation. Such conflict, commonly known as a “mourning war,” usually began at the behest of women who had lost a son or husband and desired the group's male warriors to capture individuals from other groups who could replace those they had lost. Captives might help maintain a stable population or appease the grief of bereaved relatives: if the women of the tribe so demanded, captives would be ritually tortured, sometimes to death if the captive was deemed unfit for adoption into the tribe. Because the aim in warfare was to acquire captives, quick raids, as opposed to pitched battles, predominated. Warfare in Eastern Woodland cultures also allowed young males to acquire prestige or status through the demonstration of martial skill and courage.”

Each tribe had their own rules and customs to perpetrate warfare and violence against other tribes, varying by tribe and geographic region.

It’s quite simple to examine the customs and cultures in Mexico, Central, and South America, and see how the Native people in those areas committed widespread and devastating genocide against their enemy tribes (other Native people) and the massive atrocities committed by Native people against other Native people. Like wiping out entire villages, and taking anyone they wanted to be sacrificed ritually in ceremonies to appease and please their various gods. Entire tribes killed/taken prisoner to become slaves or sacrificed. They were used as slaves until they died from starvation and illness/injury/overwork. Or they were killed in rituals as human sacrifices.

It’s so convenient to ignore these facts, but you are. [/quote]

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