Advantages for Male Applicants in Humanities or Liberal arts

[Anonymous]

Maybe I’m completely naive, but why would anyone try to squeeze their STEM kid into a humanities box or vice versa?? I would feel so resentful if my parents did that to me, even if it came from a loving, well-intentioned place-to give me an edge in college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m completely naive, but why would anyone try to squeeze their STEM kid into a humanities box or vice versa?? I would feel so resentful if my parents did that to me, even if it came from a loving, well-intentioned place-to give me an edge in college admissions.

Because your STEM kid is just pretending to major in humanities to get into the school, and will major in STEM not humanities once there.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m completely naive, but why would anyone try to squeeze their STEM kid into a humanities box or vice versa?? I would feel so resentful if my parents did that to me, even if it came from a loving, well-intentioned place-to give me an edge in college admissions.

Because your STEM kid is just pretending to major in humanities to get into the school, and will major in STEM not humanities once there.

Because people always look for an advantage so this is another one to exploit

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

[Anonymous]

One way to gauge genuine interest is ask what books the kid has read during the past 6 months.

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Anonymous wrote:One way to gauge genuine interest is ask what books the kid has read during the past 6 months.

And the kid will just make something up.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

You can always "un-omit" IYKWIM

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

At our private school:
Writing for school paper
Writing for literary magazine
Managing student govt social media
Entering poetry slams (most are required to do one)
Everyone is entered into humanities writing contests

CCO makes sure everyone has humanities ECs

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

This is the easiest EC and one that pricey private college counselors tell everyone to add-on (no way to confirm, easy to start in summer before senior year and say it was 11/12 grade etc).
Also if aiming for a selective school and kid is interested in some sort of identity-based co-major, easy to create a book club focusing on books from that sub-group. Then say you hosted it at some 3rd party location etc.
This is by far the easiest to implement quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

At our private school:
Writing for school paper
Writing for literary magazine
Managing student govt social media
Entering poetry slams (most are required to do one)
Everyone is entered into humanities writing contests

CCO makes sure everyone has humanities ECs

I get those activities exist...but you actually have to plan ahead and participate in them. Also, I can't imagine entering a poetry slam and not achieving anything or entering into a writing contest and not winning anything counts much as an activity or EC...but I don't put it past anyone to puff it up to more than it is.

So, you agree with me that if you are going to try to get into Yale and study Econ, but perhaps its easier to be admitted for English...that you need to start thinking a bit strategically prior to Senior year of HS.

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

At our private school:
Writing for school paper
Writing for literary magazine
Managing student govt social media
Entering poetry slams (most are required to do one)
Everyone is entered into humanities writing contests

CCO makes sure everyone has humanities ECs

I get those activities exist...but you actually have to plan ahead and participate in them. Also, I can't imagine entering a poetry slam and not achieving anything or entering into a writing contest and not winning anything counts much as an activity or EC...but I don't put it past anyone to puff it up to more than it is.

So, you agree with me that if you are going to try to get into Yale and study Econ, but perhaps its easier to be admitted for English...that you need to start thinking a bit strategically prior to Senior year of HS.

DP. I agree with you and admissions agrees and sees right through the game playing, especially ivies/elites. They know any admitted student can major in anything and they look for true years-long dedication to areas related to the major listed as well as grades that align with that interest and recs and awards that do. My true humanities kid had a “best writer ever taught” rec as well as two awards, one national, in areas related to the intended major. Female, which made the odds long, but is at a top ten private. All of her humanities peers had similar or better ECs and awards in those areas

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Humanities grads will be in much higher demand in a GenAI-enabled workforce than STEM geeks

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Humanities grads will be in much higher demand in a GenAI-enabled workforce than STEM geeks

Explain...not with generalities, but specifics which indicate you know WTF you are talking about.

I don't understand how anyone can ever make the claim that humanities grads will be in higher demand for anything when they literally have never been in higher demand for jobs ever over kids with hard skills. The only humanities grads that get decent jobs graduate from Top 20 schools which comprise like 1/1000 of college grads...and even their average earnings aren't great.