Advantages for Male Applicants in Humanities or Liberal arts

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Humanities grads will be in much higher demand in a GenAI-enabled workforce than STEM geeks

Yes already seeing this with Wall Street

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

Our college counselor said for most people the intended major and best acceptance chances align with the kids ECs, awards, etc that clearly demonstrate that interest. Could be the most competitive major…but that’s fine because there are many kids that want that competitive major but don’t show anything really indicating why they want that major.

Only point is that if your kid is President of Junior Achievement, runs the stock market club, etc…the school may think it’s now odd the kid is applying as an English major when all they have to show for that is a high verbal score and AP English.

Most kids can rearrange activities or omit others. It’s not that hard.

That's great...but what English major activities does a kid not interested in being an English major pursue? I doubt they entered creative writing contests or even started a book club.

So, just curious what activities are being re-arranged. Only point is it takes more planning then just deciding to claim a major that you believe has a higher chance of acceptance...start planning for that by Sophomore year of HS at the latest.

At our private school:
Writing for school paper
Writing for literary magazine
Managing student govt social media
Entering poetry slams (most are required to do one)
Everyone is entered into humanities writing contests

CCO makes sure everyone has humanities ECs

I get those activities exist...but you actually have to plan ahead and participate in them. Also, I can't imagine entering a poetry slam and not achieving anything or entering into a writing contest and not winning anything counts much as an activity or EC...but I don't put it past anyone to puff it up to more than it is.

So, you agree with me that if you are going to try to get into Yale and study Econ, but perhaps its easier to be admitted for English...that you need to start thinking a bit strategically prior to Senior year of HS.

DP. I agree with you and admissions agrees and sees right through the game playing, especially ivies/elites. They know any admitted student can major in anything and they look for true years-long dedication to areas related to the major listed as well as grades that align with that interest and recs and awards that do. My true humanities kid had a “best writer ever taught” rec as well as two awards, one national, in areas related to the intended major. Female, which made the odds long, but is at a top ten private. All of her humanities peers had similar or better ECs and awards in those areas

Agree. It will also show in the writing for the applications and supplements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

What a narrow-minded perspective. The humanities are essential for critical thinking. College is not vocational training, and some things can't be quantified in terms of ROI.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

What a narrow-minded perspective. The humanities are essential for critical thinking. College is not vocational training, and some things can't be quantified in terms of ROI.

I love the narrow-minded arrogance of humanities fluffers who think science does not require "critical thinking". In fact the critical thinking in STEM is much more rigorous and meaningful than the "critical thinking" in humanities. If your STEM critical thinking fails - the plane crashes, the bridge falls down. If your humanities "critical thinking" fails - so what, nobody dies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

What a narrow-minded perspective. The humanities are essential for critical thinking. College is not vocational training, and some things can't be quantified in terms of ROI.

I love the narrow-minded arrogance of humanities fluffers who think science does not require "critical thinking". In fact the critical thinking in STEM is much more rigorous and meaningful than the "critical thinking" in humanities. If your STEM critical thinking fails - the plane crashes, the bridge falls down. If your humanities "critical thinking" fails - so what, nobody dies.

Your soul dies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which selective schools offer an advantage to male applicants who are interested in the humanities or liberal arts?

So far, I’ve seen:

Yale
Brown
Emory
Tulane
Pomona
Swarthmore

Vanderbilt?

Humanities grads will be in much higher demand in a GenAI-enabled workforce than STEM geeks

No they won't. There will be a small subset of humanities grads who proofread and edit the AI-generated content, but all the humanities minions who used to generate content will have been replaced.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

What a narrow-minded perspective. The humanities are essential for critical thinking. College is not vocational training, and some things can't be quantified in terms of ROI.

I love the narrow-minded arrogance of humanities fluffers who think science does not require "critical thinking". In fact the critical thinking in STEM is much more rigorous and meaningful than the "critical thinking" in humanities. If your STEM critical thinking fails - the plane crashes, the bridge falls down. If your humanities "critical thinking" fails - so what, nobody dies.

Your soul dies.

lol if you think you need to major in humanities to have a soul.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

+1
Also I did humanities at one of those school, and the humanities classes were far from a walk in the park and had a ton of work, so I would hope only someone truly passionate about them commits to take them

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

No there is only one way to live and only a narrow way to measure success and ordinal rankings are real and one should maximize every opportunity to gain advantage over others even if it requires deliberately misrepresenting oneself but whatever you do don’t call it dishonest and humanities are pointless and if you can’t measure the roi of something it has no value, did I miss anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

What a narrow-minded perspective. The humanities are essential for critical thinking. College is not vocational training, and some things can't be quantified in terms of ROI.

THIS. And of course STEM requires critical thinking too, or at least it does at top schools where even the most technical majors have classes centered on the thinking behind the problem solving, in addition to the current technology, because top colleges are not vocational even in stem. Technology is used by all majors at every college ours is applying to (only highly selective), but technology changes: top schools teach how to think and analyze, and of course that includes in humanities.
And no I am not a humanities person I am an MD-phD who went to a top undergrad & grad. Both institutions emphasized thinking for all majors and still do.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

I'm sure these are typical jobs of humanities grads in the real world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

+1
Also I did humanities at one of those school, and the humanities classes were far from a walk in the park and had a ton of work, so I would hope only someone truly passionate about them commits to take them

Lots of work =/= actually difficult

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.