Advantages for Male Applicants in Humanities or Liberal arts

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Anonymous wrote:FFS, some of our males are actually very interested in the humanities.

It's pissing me off that so many pps are trying to game the system by falsely claiming to want to major in them.

Eh.
My son was never interested in computer science.
But rather than apply as a dime a dozen Econ /Finance major, he is applying in another area that he’s also interested in.

Since when is econ humanities?

My son is also interested in Econ/Finance and is applying as an English major. They don’t have to actually declare their major until the end of sophomore year. Private college counselor insisted this is the way to do it.

Yes, agree w/this. Similar advice from our school's CCO.

Our private college counselor told my son to apply as a French major or an English major. His interest is in economics and business, but this is a less competitive path and he can declare his actual major after he starts attending school.

I wonder how many people do this - for boys at selective private T25?

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Bumping up for the DEi discussion and male/female parity.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid’s transcript and resume indicate a strong interest (I.e. entire high school career) in the humanities, this will not work. Colleges well aware of this trick.

It does. We’re good.

Let's be real these colleges are not preparing students for the real world which is not humanities

You are an idiot and most likely not an adult over the age of 25.
The "real world" is comprised of many different jobs that are landed by a variety of majors. Humanities majors I know from either my current world or my undergrad (T10)peers: two different CEO's of nonprofits, both nationally recognized names; multiple lawyers; partner in a private equity firm, not a lawyer; Vice provost at a T15 LAC in our area; Owner of three restaurants.

What is the average/median income of humanities majors from your school…at graduation and ten years out? That is more relevant data than your examples above.

Also…a lawyer has their job due to law school…it’s irrelevant to include them in the discussion.

Your question isn’t as relevant as you think, because people actively want and seek different kind of jobs, which don’t all pay the same.

The question is really how well a major or school prepares a student to live out their intention. But that’s much, much harder to measure than the quantity of people in finance or tech within a certain major.

To this day, I would posit 80%+ kids just take the “best” job they can get from college…which usually means highest paying.

So it is relevant to look at median earnings because it indicates in general what jobs are available to that school’s grads.

You think that 80% of students from the caliber of schools being discussed in this thread have so little intention that they not only take whatever the highest paying job is offered to them, but also remain that passive about their career for ten years?

A different way of putting it: you think that students who choose teaching or museum curation or social service or journalism would have chosen Bain or McKinsey if only they’d been offered that path?

If that’s true, then median income would be the only relevant measure. But I suspect there’s a flaw in your underlying premise.

I actually think the career results of HYP show that yes- students don’t have that many passions and many will take the bag and leave. If you’re offering a high enough salary and aren’t an oil/gas company, college students will flock towards you. It’s not that they don’t want to do journalism, but it’s a lot easier to get a consulting job from a top school than journalism. Plus, career development offices push consulting and finance more than any other career.

Career offices are the cause for much of this. My kid came back from his freshman year at an Ivy wanting to do consulting/IB, and less than a year prior, he would’ve thrown up saying those two career options. So much social/intellectual development wasted on those industries.

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^^^
With AI they will need fewer and fewer entry level hires though.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping up for the DEi discussion and male/female parity.

There is no DEI requirement now for schools to admit enough men to achieve a rough semblance of gender parity, but they do it anyway. So I don't see how banning DEI will affect this.

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The only thing AI is doing is eliminating the programmer. Most people I work with leverage AI heavily to do software programming. CS degree is becoming worthless.