Pro Israel demonstration in DC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

Because Americans historically like the underdog . At one time, that was the Jews

How is Israel not the underdog? It's surrounded by unfriendly/hostile nations, who could take in more Palestinians but won't. And as we have seen, military might can't stop the crazies from killing you. Look, there are two sides to this story and Palestinians are not in an enviable position but I can see an underdog story spun for either side. Just my impressions as someone who has never paid much attention to peace in the middle east.

When one country has nuclear weapons and controls another groups food, fuel and water supplies, they are not the underdog.

The Gazans dug up and dismantled the multi million dollar water system that the EU gave them to use the pipes for bombs.

wow I thought that might be exaggerating but seems like it may be true … https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-gaza-challenge-stopping-metal-tubes-turning-into-rockets-2021-05-23/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

You really don’t get it? I mean you REALLY don’t? “One could argue about tactics”? Seriously?? 10 thousand people including 4 thousand children bombed and unable to flee is not a genocide to you? I’m neither Israeli nor Palestinian but I can see for myself how one sided this is and I’m glad others are calling out atrocities when they see it.

DP. I don't think you understand the words you are using. Genocide has a specific meaning. We saw plenty of civilians killed in the most recent US conflicts. It's not going to phase Americans who are familiar with collateral damage.

I know what a genocide is, and calling justified, collateral damage or whatever else helps you sleep at night does not change the fact that this is a textbook definition of genocide. If it doesn’t phase you, then it you should really think about why the deaths of some are worthy of mourning but not others.

You are diluting what a genocide is. War is bloody, look at history books. We destroyed two Japanese cities with the atomic bomb. Was it justified? Who knows but we did it and it was war.

You cannot seriously suggest that Gaza should be wiped out with a nuclear bomb!

That's not what PP suggested at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

Because Americans historically like the underdog . At one time, that was the Jews

How is Israel not the underdog? It's surrounded by unfriendly/hostile nations, who could take in more Palestinians but won't. And as we have seen, military might can't stop the crazies from killing you. Look, there are two sides to this story and Palestinians are not in an enviable position but I can see an underdog story spun for either side. Just my impressions as someone who has never paid much attention to peace in the middle east.

What generation are you?

Israel WAS an amazing cinderella story but it's been the top seed for awhile now.

So Israel shouldn't have a voice in the ongoing question of its right to exist? Because it already exists?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

Because Americans historically like the underdog . At one time, that was the Jews

How is Israel not the underdog? It's surrounded by unfriendly/hostile nations, who could take in more Palestinians but won't. And as we have seen, military might can't stop the crazies from killing you. Look, there are two sides to this story and Palestinians are not in an enviable position but I can see an underdog story spun for either side. Just my impressions as someone who has never paid much attention to peace in the middle east.

What generation are you?

Israel WAS an amazing cinderella story but it's been the top seed for awhile now.

So Israel shouldn't have a voice in the ongoing question of its right to exist? Because it already exists?

No. But it's no longer an underdog.

[Anonymous]

A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

The elephant in the room is that Hamas and its useful idiots crave a “Palestine” that is Jew-free. Does the PA wish this too? Kind of? Sort of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

The elephant in the room is that Hamas and its useful idiots crave a “Palestine” that is Jew-free. Does the PA wish this too? Kind of? Sort of?

Really?

[Anonymous]

neo-nazis have praised the pro-palestinian rally in dc. horseshoe theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

You really don’t get it? I mean you REALLY don’t? “One could argue about tactics”? Seriously?? 10 thousand people including 4 thousand children bombed and unable to flee is not a genocide to you? I’m neither Israeli nor Palestinian but I can see for myself how one sided this is and I’m glad others are calling out atrocities when they see it.

DP. I don't think you understand the words you are using. Genocide has a specific meaning. We saw plenty of civilians killed in the most recent US conflicts. It's not going to phase Americans who are familiar with collateral damage.

I know what a genocide is, and calling justified, collateral damage or whatever else helps you sleep at night does not change the fact that this is a textbook definition of genocide. If it doesn’t phase you, then it you should really think about why the deaths of some are worthy of mourning but not others.

You are diluting what a genocide is. War is bloody, look at history books. We destroyed two Japanese cities with the atomic bomb. Was it justified? Who knows but we did it and it was war.

You cannot seriously suggest that Gaza should be wiped out with a nuclear bomb!

That's not what PP suggested at all.

That is what an Israeli minister suggested in an interview. The nuclear option is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

The elephant in the room is that Hamas and its useful idiots crave a “Palestine” that is Jew-free. Does the PA wish this too? Kind of? Sort of?

Israel wants a Jew only land with no Palestinians. Gaza and West Bank to be Palestinian free
And this is at a great cost to human lives

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

You really don’t get it? I mean you REALLY don’t? “One could argue about tactics”? Seriously?? 10 thousand people including 4 thousand children bombed and unable to flee is not a genocide to you? I’m neither Israeli nor Palestinian but I can see for myself how one sided this is and I’m glad others are calling out atrocities when they see it.

DP. I don't think you understand the words you are using. Genocide has a specific meaning. We saw plenty of civilians killed in the most recent US conflicts. It's not going to phase Americans who are familiar with collateral damage.

I know what a genocide is, and calling justified, collateral damage or whatever else helps you sleep at night does not change the fact that this is a textbook definition of genocide. If it doesn’t phase you, then it you should really think about why the deaths of some are worthy of mourning but not others.

You are diluting what a genocide is. War is bloody, look at history books. We destroyed two Japanese cities with the atomic bomb. Was it justified? Who knows but we did it and it was war.

You cannot seriously suggest that Gaza should be wiped out with a nuclear bomb!

That's not what PP suggested at all.

That is what an Israeli minister suggested in an interview. The nuclear option is real.

He was immediately suspended. Probably for being a complete idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

The elephant in the room is that Hamas and its useful idiots crave a “Palestine” that is Jew-free. Does the PA wish this too? Kind of? Sort of?

Israel wants a Jew only land with no Palestinians. Gaza and West Bank to be Palestinian free
And this is at a great cost to human lives

Your English needs help comrade. Please see me in room 101.

[Anonymous]

Gaza is holding American citizens hostage. Some are children.