Pro Israel demonstration in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

DP. A march against Hamas, certainly. And a march in recognition of returning the hostages. That is the moral high ground.

While remaining silent about the elephant in the living room

The elephant in the room is that Hamas and its useful idiots crave a “Palestine” that is Jew-free. Does the PA wish this too? Kind of? Sort of?

Israel wants a Jew only land with no Palestinians. Gaza and West Bank to be Palestinian free
And this is at a great cost to human lives

There are Arab Israelis and Christian Israelis and Druze Israelis. They hold seats in the Israeli Parliament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't really understand why Israel is losing the war of minds/hearts. The message seems pretty simple to me: Israel deserves to exist in peace. One could argue about tactics and strategies etc but that core message seems simple and should resonate. Why is this so hard? Why can't people rally behind that? The only people who object would be those who find the existence of Israel to be abhorrent but if they actually say that, how is that now showing their own inhumanity?

Because Americans historically like the underdog . At one time, that was the Jews

How is Israel not the underdog? It's surrounded by unfriendly/hostile nations, who could take in more Palestinians but won't. And as we have seen, military might can't stop the crazies from killing you. Look, there are two sides to this story and Palestinians are not in an enviable position but I can see an underdog story spun for either side. Just my impressions as someone who has never paid much attention to peace in the middle east.

When one country has nuclear weapons and controls another groups food, fuel and water supplies, they are not the underdog.

Gaza has received tens of billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. They are on the sea. They share a border with Egypt. Israel left the strip in 2005. If Gaza has no independent sources of food, fuel or water, it’s because Hamas has rerouted the funding to terrorism. It’s not because of israel and using israel as the excuse gives Palestinians no credit for their own ability to develop an economy.

It is almost lime denying their agency.

[Anonymous]

Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

[Anonymous]

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Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

Jews need to understand that logical and moral arguments aren’t going to keep the God hating world from persecuting his people. The evangelical Christian’s who care about them are their only friends. Gun rights were made for this moment to protect dignity. Turn to God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

Hamas' strategy is one of terror and attempted genocide. You are right - they don't care about Palestinian lives. They don't care about any lives. They believe that anyone in the LGBTQ+ community should be condemned to death.
Their goal was to kill as many Jews as possible. And, in doing so, they also killed Palestinians in Israel. Because they don't care about lives. Civilians are only valuable for the protection of the terrorists.
The sooner the world recognizes this, the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

Hamas' strategy is one of terror and attempted genocide. You are right - they don't care about Palestinian lives. They don't care about any lives. They believe that anyone in the LGBTQ+ community should be condemned to death.
Their goal was to kill as many Jews as possible. And, in doing so, they also killed Palestinians in Israel. Because they don't care about lives. Civilians are only valuable for the protection of the terrorists.
The sooner the world recognizes this, the better.

Neither side cares

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

Yes, that is their strategy. It has long been recognized as such. That said Hamas’ reported casualty numbers could probably be reduced by at least half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

Yes, that is their strategy. It has long been recognized as such. That said Hamas’ reported casualty numbers could probably be reduced by at least half.

The overall number is actually widely assumed to be an undercount because it only includes those brought to a hospital and identified. How many of those were Hamas fighters is a different issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

Jews need to understand that logical and moral arguments aren’t going to keep the God hating world from persecuting his people. The evangelical Christian’s who care about them are their only friends. Gun rights were made for this moment to protect dignity. Turn to God.

Without weighing in on the conflict itself, the crazy christian right NEEDS Israel for their looney tunes second coming / armageddon nonsense. Don't conflate that with caring about Jews in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

100% agree. The entire point of the terror raid was to goad Bibi into an emotional over-response and to draw Israeli troops into urban and tunnel warfare, where they will get bogged down and killed. It also creates an opportunity for a northern invasion by Hezbollah.

Hamas murders Palestinians who dare to raise even the slightest voice of opposition to Hamas. As soon as Hamas won election in 2007, they murdered all the Gazan members of Fatah and other opposition parties.

If you are Gazan but not part of Hamas, you are disposable. Hamas is actively killing civilians who are trying to flee south to Gaza City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

Jews need to understand that logical and moral arguments aren’t going to keep the God hating world from persecuting his people. The evangelical Christian’s who care about them are their only friends. Gun rights were made for this moment to protect dignity. Turn to God.

Without weighing in on the conflict itself, the crazy christian right NEEDS Israel for their looney tunes second coming / armageddon nonsense. Don't conflate that with caring about Jews in general.

I would call that an urban myth. Have you been a church goer?
2nd coming of Christ is not the main Christian doctrine but a side note, just like the promise of a Messiah is in Judaism. Nobody NEEDS Israel for Armageddon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A march to support Israel’s self defense or Israel’s right to destroy?

I get the argument that the massacres of 7 October meets legal obligations for self-defence and with the required level of proportionality.

But as countless images of children pulled from the rubble and the number of Palestinians killed climbs above 10,000, that argument is becoming weak

There are dcum posters who still believe that Israel can do no wrong, and any suggestions otherwise is a sign of antisemitism.

Good luck with the march

I am starting to think that was Hama's strategy. They don't care about Palestinians. They wanted the world to see Israel killing civilians. In ages past, the casaulties of Israel's actions would not be immediately obvious and most would support Israel defending itself against an aggressor. Now in this age of instant images, it's a different story and Israel is in a tough spot. Hamas knows this and this is now the war strategy of the 21 century: use your own people as fodder to win hearts and minds.

100% agree. The entire point of the terror raid was to goad Bibi into an emotional over-response and to draw Israeli troops into urban and tunnel warfare, where they will get bogged down and killed. It also creates an opportunity for a northern invasion by Hezbollah.

Hamas murders Palestinians who dare to raise even the slightest voice of opposition to Hamas. As soon as Hamas won election in 2007, they murdered all the Gazan members of Fatah and other opposition parties.

If you are Gazan but not part of Hamas, you are disposable. Hamas is actively killing civilians who are trying to flee south to Gaza City.

The only people killing civilians in Gaza are the Israelis. Israeli do not view other people as human.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

Jews need to understand that logical and moral arguments aren’t going to keep the God hating world from persecuting his people. The evangelical Christian’s who care about them are their only friends. Gun rights were made for this moment to protect dignity. Turn to God.

Without weighing in on the conflict itself, the crazy christian right NEEDS Israel for their looney tunes second coming / armageddon nonsense. Don't conflate that with caring about Jews in general.

Armageddon doesn’t look so nonsensical anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Israel and Gun rights. Drive the satanic control freaks of the world literally insane because they hate God and they hate freedom backed by force. That tiny postage stamp of a country is hated by the World. The whole thing is a phenomenon that 100 percent supports a biblical world view.

Jews need to understand that logical and moral arguments aren’t going to keep the God hating world from persecuting his people. The evangelical Christian’s who care about them are their only friends. Gun rights were made for this moment to protect dignity. Turn to God.

Without weighing in on the conflict itself, the crazy christian right NEEDS Israel for their looney tunes second coming / armageddon nonsense. Don't conflate that with caring about Jews in general.

Armageddon doesn’t look so nonsensical anymore.

Just waiting on the red cow