Safe schools for a Jewish kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

And you are exactly the target audience for the comment above. If you didn't take every opportunity to remind us how much Jews are suffering right now, perhaps you'd get a different response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry to segway here, but can someone please explain to me what anti-Zionist means? Does it mean being against Netanyahu/Israeli policies against Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank (i.e. blockade, terrible conditions, land grabs in territories, Greater Israel, etc.) OR does it mean there should be "One Palestine" with Israel ceasing to exist as a Jewish state and reclamation of Palestinian lands in Israel proper?

Just trying to get a better understanding of the terminology being thrown around these days.

Historically speaking, antizionism was the opposition to the creation of a Jewish state. Since the establishment of Israel in 1949, it has come to be interpreted as opposition to the policies of the Israeli government, specifically with regards to its policies in the West Bank and the institutional racism towards non-Jews.

Not really. If that’s what you mean when you say it, you should rethink it. Many people are opposed to their own governments or other governments without being opposed to the right of the state to exist. I am staunchly Zionist - I believe in Israel’s right to exist. I am against many of the policies of the current Israeli government especially with regards to the West Bank. I am in favor of a Palestinian state too. Generally anti-Zionism IS antisemitism but with an “acceptable” face.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What schools in Virginia are safe for a Jewish girl??

I just want to say I am sorry that you have to ask this question. I don’t think it is crazy FYI. I don’t have a Va answer (not any information that I am familiar with) but Catholic schools tend to be very supportive and always have had a strong Jewish community. Boston College is less churchy than Notre Dame FWIW

You mention BC but I'd emphasize that BC is Jesuit and those universities in particular are supportive and encourage communication and understanding across cultures, religions, nations.

Agree that Catholic schools are a good choice, as they all are supportive and encourage communication and understanding across cultures, religions, nations, and politics.

Re: ND in particular, Notre Dame is home to the Kroc Institute of International Peace Studies. The lecture on the current situation was standing room only. https://kroc.nd.edu/news-events/ It's statement: https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/10/an-open-letter-for-peace-from-the-kroc-institute/

ND Jewish Club: https://notredameday.nd.edu/organizations/jewish-club-of-notre-dame

Also, ND has had a longstanding program in Israel: https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/10/from-the-archives-notre-dame-in-jerusalem/

Old article on Jewish students at ND through history, including several Rabbis. https://sites.nd.edu/ndarchives/jewish-students-at-notre-dame/ adn a more recent OpEd: https://www.jewishoncampus.org/media/jewish-on-a-catholic-campus-the-joc-ambassador-programs-impact-at-notre-dame

Do non-Christians get to opt out of the two required Christian-based theology classes?
https://theology.nd.edu/about/the-university-requirement-for-theology/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

And you are exactly the target audience for the comment above. If you didn't take every opportunity to remind us how much Jews are suffering right now, perhaps you'd get a different response.

Do you police statements by all minorities, or just Jews?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry to segway here, but can someone please explain to me what anti-Zionist means? Does it mean being against Netanyahu/Israeli policies against Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank (i.e. blockade, terrible conditions, land grabs in territories, Greater Israel, etc.) OR does it mean there should be "One Palestine" with Israel ceasing to exist as a Jewish state and reclamation of Palestinian lands in Israel proper?

Just trying to get a better understanding of the terminology being thrown around these days.

Historically speaking, antizionism was the opposition to the creation of a Jewish state. Since the establishment of Israel in 1949, it has come to be interpreted as opposition to the policies of the Israeli government, specifically with regards to its policies in the West Bank and the institutional racism towards non-Jews.

Not really. If that’s what you mean when you say it, you should rethink it. Many people are opposed to their own governments or other governments without being opposed to the right of the state to exist. I am staunchly Zionist - I believe in Israel’s right to exist. I am against many of the policies of the current Israeli government especially with regards to the West Bank. I am in favor of a Palestinian state too. Generally anti-Zionism IS antisemitism but with an “acceptable” face.

No state has an inherent "right" to exist. People do, however.

signed,

a person born in former Yugoslavia

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cross Columbia university and Barnard off the list of safe campuses for Jewish students.

Their professors signed a letter defending anti-Semitic student protests on campus.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine being a Jewish college student, in class, and one of these professors discovers you are a Jew?? OMG.

Pro-Palestinian doesn't equal anti-Semitic. It's anti-apartheid.

Do you know how many Arab Muslim citizens there are in Israel? Compare that to the number of Jewish citizens in other Middle East majority Muslim countries, where Jews were forced out.

Apartheid is just your cute code-word to traffic in antisemitism.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'd report 75%+ of these posts for being off-topic and abusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

And you are exactly the target audience for the comment above. If you didn't take every opportunity to remind us how much Jews are suffering right now, perhaps you'd get a different response.

Do you police statements by all minorities, or just Jews?

Keep trying to make me into someone I am not. I never said anything against Jews not do I feel any animosity towards you. Never protested against Israel. Feeling deeply troubled by what is happening to ALL innocent people in Israel and Gaza right now does not make me an anti-semite. Maybe you should practice some empathy yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'd report 75%+ of these posts for being off-topic and abusive.

Abusive? So everything you don't agree with is abusive? Don't start highly charged threads under the guise of concern if you can't stand to read the responses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry to segway here, but can someone please explain to me what anti-Zionist means? Does it mean being against Netanyahu/Israeli policies against Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank (i.e. blockade, terrible conditions, land grabs in territories, Greater Israel, etc.) OR does it mean there should be "One Palestine" with Israel ceasing to exist as a Jewish state and reclamation of Palestinian lands in Israel proper?

Just trying to get a better understanding of the terminology being thrown around these days.

Historically speaking, antizionism was the opposition to the creation of a Jewish state. Since the establishment of Israel in 1949, it has come to be interpreted as opposition to the policies of the Israeli government, specifically with regards to its policies in the West Bank and the institutional racism towards non-Jews.

No this is incorrect. Anti zionism means to be against the existence of a Jewish state. I'm pro-zionist but anti Bibi/West Bank settlements/etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Your point is taken but it is also comes from an educated background that shows an understanding of nuance. I think the issue for OP (and other Jewish families) is that the people who are more likely to act out against her child in a way that is unsafe (or feels so) are far more likely to be anti-semitic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What schools in Virginia are safe for a Jewish girl??

I just want to say I am sorry that you have to ask this question. I don’t think it is crazy FYI. I don’t have a Va answer (not any information that I am familiar with) but Catholic schools tend to be very supportive and always have had a strong Jewish community. Boston College is less churchy than Notre Dame FWIW

You mention BC but I'd emphasize that BC is Jesuit and those universities in particular are supportive and encourage communication and understanding across cultures, religions, nations.

Agree that Catholic schools are a good choice, as they all are supportive and encourage communication and understanding across cultures, religions, nations, and politics.

Re: ND in particular, Notre Dame is home to the Kroc Institute of International Peace Studies. The lecture on the current situation was standing room only. https://kroc.nd.edu/news-events/ It's statement: https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/10/an-open-letter-for-peace-from-the-kroc-institute/

ND Jewish Club: https://notredameday.nd.edu/organizations/jewish-club-of-notre-dame

Also, ND has had a longstanding program in Israel: https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/10/from-the-archives-notre-dame-in-jerusalem/

Old article on Jewish students at ND through history, including several Rabbis. https://sites.nd.edu/ndarchives/jewish-students-at-notre-dame/ adn a more recent OpEd: https://www.jewishoncampus.org/media/jewish-on-a-catholic-campus-the-joc-ambassador-programs-impact-at-notre-dame

Do non-Christians get to opt out of the two required Christian-based theology classes?
https://theology.nd.edu/about/the-university-requirement-for-theology/

Can't speak to ND but at Jesuit schools, the 2 theology course requirement is not a Christian-based theology requirement. There are many choices and are often akin to history or philosophy courses where the subject explores a particular religion or a set of religions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

DP, but several posts on this thread have portrayed antizionist protests and statements as antisemitic, when they are different. A college professor expressing objections to the Israeli government and Israeli policy with regards to Palestinians is not being antisemitic, and yet several posts in this thread have described it that way.

Several posts in this thread have also said that there have been protests on college campuses calling for the murder or extermination of Jews. If that were true, it would indeed be a terrible thing. But it is not true. There have been protests on college campuses objecting to Israeli occupation of Gaza, arguing for both a two-state solution and in some cases for the elimination of the Jewish state. What happens is that people then extrapolate that they believe those positions and proposals would result in Jewish deaths. I agree in some cases! But that does not mean that the people making these arguments are anti-semitic. It means that they are oppose Israel, not Jews.

If you don't want people popping up in every thread explaining the difference between antizionism and antisemitism, then please stop calling people who express objections to the far right Israeli government and their concerning policies as "antisemitic."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

DP, but several posts on this thread have portrayed antizionist protests and statements as antisemitic, when they are different. A college professor expressing objections to the Israeli government and Israeli policy with regards to Palestinians is not being antisemitic, and yet several posts in this thread have described it that way.

Several posts in this thread have also said that there have been protests on college campuses calling for the murder or extermination of Jews. If that were true, it would indeed be a terrible thing. But it is not true. There have been protests on college campuses objecting to Israeli occupation of Gaza, arguing for both a two-state solution and in some cases for the elimination of the Jewish state. What happens is that people then extrapolate that they believe those positions and proposals would result in Jewish deaths. I agree in some cases! But that does not mean that the people making these arguments are anti-semitic. It means that they are oppose Israel, not Jews.

If you don't want people popping up in every thread explaining the difference between antizionism and antisemitism, then please stop calling people who express objections to the far right Israeli government and their concerning policies as "antisemitic."

People calling for the elimination of the Jewish state aren't antisemitic? Come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No doubt there is a boatload of antisemitism rearing its ugly head right now but I feel like we should note the difference between antisemitism and antizionism.

Thank you for taking every opportunity to point this out, every time a Jewish person mentions antisemitism. It’s really vital to keep putting us in our place, and I’m sure you do the same thing for all minorities who experience hatred. Thanks again for your good work.

DP, but several posts on this thread have portrayed antizionist protests and statements as antisemitic, when they are different. A college professor expressing objections to the Israeli government and Israeli policy with regards to Palestinians is not being antisemitic, and yet several posts in this thread have described it that way.

Several posts in this thread have also said that there have been protests on college campuses calling for the murder or extermination of Jews. If that were true, it would indeed be a terrible thing. But it is not true. There have been protests on college campuses objecting to Israeli occupation of Gaza, arguing for both a two-state solution and in some cases for the elimination of the Jewish state. What happens is that people then extrapolate that they believe those positions and proposals would result in Jewish deaths. I agree in some cases! But that does not mean that the people making these arguments are anti-semitic. It means that they are oppose Israel, not Jews.

If you don't want people popping up in every thread explaining the difference between antizionism and antisemitism, then please stop calling people who express objections to the far right Israeli government and their concerning policies as "antisemitic."

Antizionist protests and statements are antisemitic. Your assertion that they are not does not make it true.

Objections to the Israeli government and its policies are not antizionist.

Lastly, Israel does not occupy Gaza and withdrew from the settlements in 2005.