Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5

[Anonymous]

Why isn’t anyone questioning the 40 hour work week at this point?

Part-time jobs exist. If she wants to work less, she can do that. Naturally, this will tend to result in lower take-home pay, since she will likely accomplish less in fewer working hours. This is a choice. There are many people (particularly parents) who choose part-time work.

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why isn’t anyone questioning the 40 hour work week at this point?

Part-time jobs exist. If she wants to work less, she can do that. Naturally, this will tend to result in lower take-home pay, since she will likely accomplish less in fewer working hours. This is a choice. There are many people (particularly parents) who choose part-time work.

It's only a choice to the extent that a 40 hour work week is considered the norm. And PP has it right. Why should it be?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

Please.. I grew up in a poor immigrant family. Parents have no education and don't speak English. I'm not gonna play "who had it worse", but I can tell you horror stories of how I grew up.

You can advocate change, but good luck trying to change working a normal job for a living.

I don't need to "suck it" because I'm going to retire soon after working my tail off - working my way through college at a no name state u; commuting to college and work, and praying that my clunker doesn't die on the freeway every time I have to step on the brakes due to traffic.

You both have an entitled worldview. I don't think this person who is complaining is cleaning vomit off the floor of a hotel room, do you?

Is she working overtime without pay?
Does she have a horrible car, like I did?
Is she wearing ratty clothes?
Is she going hungry?

Doesn't appear to me that any of the above applies to her. So, boo hoo for her that she has a job and has to commute, like most people.

Boo hoo.. why do I have to work for a living.. boo hoo.. why can't I have fun and not work so hard and still be able to afford a home and go on vacations? Why is life so hard? wah wah wah..

Talk about childish, immature and ignorant.

[Anonymous]

It's only a choice to the extent that a 40 hour work week is considered the norm. And PP has it right. Why should it be?

It is because the supply and demand for labor has established it as standard. Which is to say that most people are willing to work a 40-hour week. The Gen-Z whiner doesn't need to make this choice, but she will be paid less and have to make compromises if she chooses to work less than her peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why isn’t anyone questioning the 40 hour work week at this point?

Part-time jobs exist. If she wants to work less, she can do that. Naturally, this will tend to result in lower take-home pay, since she will likely accomplish less in fewer working hours. This is a choice. There are many people (particularly parents) who choose part-time work.

A lot of jobs aren't really 40 hours of work they just get padded up to 40 because that's the default. Probably just do 32 hours and it would force you to be a lot more efficient to get everything done

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's only a choice to the extent that a 40 hour work week is considered the norm. And PP has it right. Why should it be?

It is because the supply and demand for labor has established it as standard. Which is to say that most people are willing to work a 40-hour week. The Gen-Z whiner doesn't need to make this choice, but she will be paid less and have to make compromises if she chooses to work less than her peers.

I don't know necessarily that most people are willing to work a 40-hour work week it just seems to be that that was the default created after Labor rights fought for 8 hour work day. Is it necessarily mean that every job needs to be 40 hours a lot of jobs you could get everything done faster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

Please.. I grew up in a poor immigrant family. Parents have no education and don't speak English. I'm not gonna play "who had it worse", but I can tell you horror stories of how I grew up.

You can advocate change, but good luck trying to change working a normal job for a living.

I don't need to "suck it" because I'm going to retire soon after working my tail off - working my way through college at a no name state u; commuting to college and work, and praying that my clunker doesn't die on the freeway every time I have to step on the brakes due to traffic.

You both have an entitled worldview. I don't think this person who is complaining is cleaning vomit off the floor of a hotel room, do you?

Is she working overtime without pay?
Does she have a horrible car, like I did?
Is she wearing ratty clothes?
Is she going hungry?

Doesn't appear to me that any of the above applies to her. So, boo hoo for her that she has a job and has to commute, like most people.

Boo hoo.. why do I have to work for a living.. boo hoo.. why can't I have fun and not work so hard and still be able to afford a home and go on vacations? Why is life so hard? wah wah wah..

Talk about childish, immature and ignorant.

Well, that makes two of us, hon, in terms of upbringing. And you know what, I'll take an entitled world view over someone who is lacking in empathy or sense as you appear to be. You want to work for the man for pennies and be thankful for their scraps . . . good for you. YOu may have learned the work ethic from your immigrant family, as I did, but certainly didn't gain any sense in the process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

Please.. I grew up in a poor immigrant family. Parents have no education and don't speak English. I'm not gonna play "who had it worse", but I can tell you horror stories of how I grew up.

You can advocate change, but good luck trying to change working a normal job for a living.

I don't need to "suck it" because I'm going to retire soon after working my tail off - working my way through college at a no name state u; commuting to college and work, and praying that my clunker doesn't die on the freeway every time I have to step on the brakes due to traffic.

You both have an entitled worldview. I don't think this person who is complaining is cleaning vomit off the floor of a hotel room, do you?

Is she working overtime without pay?
Does she have a horrible car, like I did?
Is she wearing ratty clothes?
Is she going hungry?

Doesn't appear to me that any of the above applies to her. So, boo hoo for her that she has a job and has to commute, like most people.

Boo hoo.. why do I have to work for a living.. boo hoo.. why can't I have fun and not work so hard and still be able to afford a home and go on vacations? Why is life so hard? wah wah wah..

Talk about childish, immature and ignorant.

Well, that makes two of us, hon, in terms of upbringing. And you know what, I'll take an entitled world view over someone who is lacking in empathy or sense as you appear to be. You want to work for the man for pennies and be thankful for their scraps . . . good for you. YOu may have learned the work ethic from your immigrant family, as I did, but certainly didn't gain any sense in the process.

I worked my tail off to earn six figures by 30. The entitled person could do the same.

I gained an appreciation of what hard work and not being entitled can bring.

[Anonymous]

Honest question - did the original concept of working 9-5 include lunch, whether it is paid or unpaid? It seems like the traditional 9-5 included a lunch "hour" which is different from today's 9 to 5:30 (30 min. unpaid lunch) or 9-6 (with an unpaid hour lunch) plus longer commutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I understand her completely. It is no way to live.

It’s what Americans do. We work.

not everyone, some parents will give their kids money so they never have to work if they don't want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest question - did the original concept of working 9-5 include lunch, whether it is paid or unpaid? It seems like the traditional 9-5 included a lunch "hour" which is different from today's 9 to 5:30 (30 min. unpaid lunch) or 9-6 (with an unpaid hour lunch) plus longer commutes.

the commute thing is recent to the mid 20th century when people started to move out into the burbs.

There are lots of people who live close to where they work, but because jobs are concentrated in certain areas, and most people want to live near where they work, that's why the col is so high in those ares.

So, your choices are:
1. lower your living standards and live closer to work
2. deal with what you got
3. find a job near where you work

Maybe in 30 years when Gen Z are managers and AI has taken over lots of jobs, and we are in flying cars, things will change, but for now, this is what we got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of strivers are crossing the border and willing to pick up the Gen Z jobs from the coddled Gen Z youth.

harsh but true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of strivers are crossing the border and willing to pick up the Gen Z jobs from the coddled Gen Z youth.

harsh but true.

They're picking up menial jobs. My relative wanted to come over for that exact reason and I encouraged him to stay back home where cost of living is cheaper and to get a work from home American job there. Also to advance his studies. We don't want ignorant people coming over. We have enough of those here.