Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I understand her completely. It is no way to live.

It’s what Americans do. We work.

not everyone, some parents will give their kids money so they never have to work if they don't want to.

Reminds me of a hott Italian guy who says he parties and clubs in Miami everyday and doesn't work. His dad gives him money. His video is on tiktok

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The majority of white-collar jobs aren’t 40 hours a week. Probably less than half of those 40 hours are actually spent working.

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Anonymous wrote:Genz won't take jobs that pay under 100k out of college

That’s not even close to accurate. Plus the oldest GenZ is only about 24 years old. I don’t get the obsession about them. Most are still in middle school or high school, some in elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the point of moving to NYC if you don't have the salary to support yourself as you want to - there are other places to live with better quality of life. Maybe she should try that.

My daughter is working and living in NYC now. She thinks about other options sometimes. She doesn’t want to live in the South or Midwest. She hated LA. She only wants a city. It leaves Boston, NYC and DC. Some people’s idea of a better quality of life is in a loud noisy city.

Okay, this is nonsensical. There are plenty of other cities besides Boston, NYC and DC that are not in the South of Midwest. Just on the East Coast, there are Buffalo, Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore. Portland and Seattle in the Pacific Northwest are wonderful cities. San Francisco, Sacramento are in California, but not LA.

The criteria she specifies and your short list of cities do not match.

Wilmington? Seriously. Do you go there?

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Anonymous wrote:Genz won't take jobs that pay under 100k out of college

That’s not even close to accurate. Plus the oldest GenZ is only about 24 years old. I don’t get the obsession about them. Most are still in middle school or high school, some in elementary school.

People are obsessed because they realized all the panic of millennials was for nothing (and they are heading to middle age now). We gotta obsess on the latest slacker generation of course/

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Anonymous wrote:Her name is 'Brielle.' I mean honestly, what do you expect with someone named Brielle?

Her parents named her, MeeMaw.

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Anonymous wrote:I recall having the same complaints. (Gen xer here) Not sure why this has to turn into an excuse to bash generation z.

Because it’s a favorite Boomer/older Boomer-esqueGen X hobby. They don’t realize how stupid they sound when they bash The Lazy Young People, just as every generation of old people has done throughout history. Go pop a Geritol, Grandma.

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

Please.. I grew up in a poor immigrant family. Parents have no education and don't speak English. I'm not gonna play "who had it worse", but I can tell you horror stories of how I grew up.

You can advocate change, but good luck trying to change working a normal job for a living.

I don't need to "suck it" because I'm going to retire soon after working my tail off - working my way through college at a no name state u; commuting to college and work, and praying that my clunker doesn't die on the freeway every time I have to step on the brakes due to traffic.

You both have an entitled worldview. I don't think this person who is complaining is cleaning vomit off the floor of a hotel room, do you?

Is she working overtime without pay?
Does she have a horrible car, like I did?
Is she wearing ratty clothes?
Is she going hungry?

Doesn't appear to me that any of the above applies to her. So, boo hoo for her that she has a job and has to commute, like most people.

Boo hoo.. why do I have to work for a living.. boo hoo.. why can't I have fun and not work so hard and still be able to afford a home and go on vacations? Why is life so hard? wah wah wah..

Talk about childish, immature and ignorant.

Keep screeching, MeeMaw/PeePaw. It’s SUCH a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the point of moving to NYC if you don't have the salary to support yourself as you want to - there are other places to live with better quality of life. Maybe she should try that.

My daughter is working and living in NYC now. She thinks about other options sometimes. She doesn’t want to live in the South or Midwest. She hated LA. She only wants a city. It leaves Boston, NYC and DC. Some people’s idea of a better quality of life is in a loud noisy city.

Okay, this is nonsensical. There are plenty of other cities besides Boston, NYC and DC that are not in the South of Midwest. Just on the East Coast, there are Buffalo, Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore. Portland and Seattle in the Pacific Northwest are wonderful cities. San Francisco, Sacramento are in California, but not LA.

The criteria she specifies and your short list of cities do not match.

Wilmington? Seriously. Do you go there?

And freaking BUFFALO. And that person thought they actually contributed something of value to the conversation.

Hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the point of moving to NYC if you don't have the salary to support yourself as you want to - there are other places to live with better quality of life. Maybe she should try that.

My daughter is working and living in NYC now. She thinks about other options sometimes. She doesn’t want to live in the South or Midwest. She hated LA. She only wants a city. It leaves Boston, NYC and DC. Some people’s idea of a better quality of life is in a loud noisy city.

Okay, this is nonsensical. There are plenty of other cities besides Boston, NYC and DC that are not in the South of Midwest. Just on the East Coast, there are Buffalo, Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore. Portland and Seattle in the Pacific Northwest are wonderful cities. San Francisco, Sacramento are in California, but not LA.

The criteria she specifies and your short list of cities do not match.

Wilmington? Seriously. Do you go there?

And freaking BUFFALO. And that person thought they actually contributed something of value to the conversation.

Hilarious.

Did that poster really list San Francisco as a city with better cost of living and commute times than NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question - did the original concept of working 9-5 include lunch, whether it is paid or unpaid? It seems like the traditional 9-5 included a lunch "hour" which is different from today's 9 to 5:30 (30 min. unpaid lunch) or 9-6 (with an unpaid hour lunch) plus longer commutes.

the commute thing is recent to the mid 20th century when people started to move out into the burbs.

There are lots of people who live close to where they work, but because jobs are concentrated in certain areas, and most people want to live near where they work, that's why the col is so high in those ares.

So, your choices are:
1. lower your living standards and live closer to work
2. deal with what you got
3. find a job near where you work

Maybe in 30 years when Gen Z are managers and AI has taken over lots of jobs, and we are in flying cars, things will change, but for now, this is what we got.

I think the increase in housing costs is recent though. Twenty or thirty years ago young people could afford to live in cities close to their jobs. I worked as a receptionist and lived in San Francisco just a 15 minute bus ride from downtown. That would be impossible today.

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Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

I want a job that pays me a million dollars and where I don't have to work that hard, but that's not gonna happen.

You are the one fos. It is "entitled" to want a good paying job and not have to work too hard for it. Sure, everyone wants that. But, there are only so many of such jobs.

So, guess what? Here are your choices:

1. suck it up and deal with it
2. quit and find something else

But, stop your whining and entitled attitude. No one owes you a job, period, let alone a job that has an easy commute and pays well.

You may be closer to retirement but you also have an entitled worldview.

You know sh-- about me and my world view or where I came from. I guarantee it was more lower working class than anyone on here. Have you cleaned vomit off the floor in hotel rooms? No, I know you didn't. I've worked my butt off and, as a result, yes I am entitled to have a view on what shoudl be accepted as the working norm and what shouldn't. So you suck it.

But, -I- don't have to "suck it up." I can advocate for change. I can, indeed (and have) quit my job when things were not as I like. ANd like it or not those things ARE changing.

This is not whining and it says a lot about you that you think another person having an opinion you don't like it. It's childish. Immature. Ignorant.

Please.. I grew up in a poor immigrant family. Parents have no education and don't speak English. I'm not gonna play "who had it worse", but I can tell you horror stories of how I grew up.

You can advocate change, but good luck trying to change working a normal job for a living.

I don't need to "suck it" because I'm going to retire soon after working my tail off - working my way through college at a no name state u; commuting to college and work, and praying that my clunker doesn't die on the freeway every time I have to step on the brakes due to traffic.

You both have an entitled worldview. I don't think this person who is complaining is cleaning vomit off the floor of a hotel room, do you?

Is she working overtime without pay?
Does she have a horrible car, like I did?
Is she wearing ratty clothes?
Is she going hungry?

Doesn't appear to me that any of the above applies to her. So, boo hoo for her that she has a job and has to commute, like most people.

Boo hoo.. why do I have to work for a living.. boo hoo.. why can't I have fun and not work so hard and still be able to afford a home and go on vacations? Why is life so hard? wah wah wah..

Talk about childish, immature and ignorant.

Keep screeching, MeeMaw/PeePaw. It’s SUCH a good look.

whut

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It’s almost a relief that the Biden economic depression is looming. Mother Nature and reality are awesome at educating evolution's rejects about what’s up.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Genz won't take jobs that pay under 100k out of college

That’s not even close to accurate. Plus the oldest GenZ is only about 24 years old. I don’t get the obsession about them. Most are still in middle school or high school, some in elementary school.

People are obsessed because they realized all the panic of millennials was for nothing (and they are heading to middle age now). We gotta obsess on the latest slacker generation of course/

Boomers don’t care that much and have moved on. The ones I see driving the Gen Z obsession are millennials, who are eager at the opportunity to punch down.

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It’s almost a relief that the Biden economic depression is looming. Mother Nature and reality are awesome at educating evolution's rejects about what’s up.

You are correct, serious recession early 2024.