Gen Z crying about having to work 9-5

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the people who are defending this Gen-Z whiner.

The alternative is...what, exactly? Work less for less pay? Move to a smaller/cheaper location with a shorter commute? Start her own business? Look for work-at-home jobs? She could do any of those. Taking a full-time 9-5 job in an expensive city without being able to afford to live near that job location is a choice.

I will never understand people who complain about conditions that they created for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Do you really think she would be working that job if she could actually find something else?

Lots of competition for jobs in the suburbs and remote positions and positions in rural areas. Not so much competition for jobs in big cities that require 5 days in office and a long commute or expensive apartment.

[Anonymous]

Genz won't take jobs that pay under 100k out of college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

Yes employers need to pay for commuting

[Anonymous]

If Americans ever had to produce equal to what they consume there would be mass suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

Yes employers need to pay for commuting

good luck with that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are these your kids? If not why do you care? What a horrible busy body you are.
My DD and DS, both Z, would love to have work from 9-5, instead they work evenings, weekends, etc...

are you new to this forum?

[Anonymous]

We didn't say this stuff out loud but it was a challenge to get things done, work, commute and later raise kids. It was often exhausting. We just didn't talk about il, let alone post on social media and share with strangers. It was a point of pride to "have it all." That was total bullshit, so while my first reaction is to dismiss her, she's actually right and while working hard is worthwhile and necessary, it's not 100% sustainable and it's not entirely fulfilling and new models for work/life balance should be established besides "grinding."
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

Yes employers need to pay for commuting

No, they need to be flexible on telework where the jobs are amenable to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the people who are defending this Gen-Z whiner.

The alternative is...what, exactly? Work less for less pay? Move to a smaller/cheaper location with a shorter commute? Start her own business? Look for work-at-home jobs? She could do any of those. Taking a full-time 9-5 job in an expensive city without being able to afford to live near that job location is a choice.

I will never understand people who complain about conditions that they created for themselves.

+1

Same. People practically want full time pay for part time work, but only if the job is remote. GTFOH. Spoiled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable. A young woman in her first job out of college is complaining that having to commute to a 9-5 job, she has to leave by 7:30am and doesn't get home to 6:15 and then doesn't even have the energy to make dinner. She laments that she doesn't have time for friends or "her life".

She should be glad that she only has an office job and not a laborer or factory job and that thanks to the way paved by labor unions in the past, that employers can only have a 40 hour work week without paying overtime (to non-salaried workers). Gen Z is so amazingly entitled.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/viral-tiktok-college-graduate-9-to-5-job-b2435504.html

How is this entitled?

People don't want a life of working long hours out of the home, and tack on long commutes to that. She's realizing that this is her life now and, for lots of us, it sucks. Maybe she envisioned something else for her life. Maybe she wishes she could afford a place closer to work. Maybe she's realizing what she went to college for was a waste and she doesn't enjoy it.

Who are you to call her entitled for feelings that are valid? We work like dogs in this country and don't enjoy good standards of work/life balance on the whole. WHat is there for her to be excited about? That she's not a day laborer in the fields? Oh, ok. I guess if you set the bar that low then you have a point. But, you don't.

dp.. she does sound a bit entitled. She doesn't have to join the rat race. There are many people who choose to not work 9 to 5 type jobs, and instead, do something else. They are willing to give up the modern boogie lifestyle for their freedom.

I like my boogie life, and so do my kids. So, they'll have to get those 9 to 5 type jobs to pay for their creature comforts.

Europeans may work less than 40 hours, but they also have less stuff, smaller homes, tiny closets, don't go shopping or eat out that frequently. Their lifestyle supports working less hours.

I think the girl wants her nice American lifestyle with the European work hours, and that doesn't equate.

What a load of Horse sh--. It's not "entitled" to want a good lifestyle (and you no nothing about her wants on that end) without having to be out of the house 10 hours a day (work + commute) and work for not very much money, esp. the first few years.

So I say, who the F cares if that is what she wants? That's what a lot of people want. People, even at my age where I'm closer to retirement than not, are OVER working like dogs for our employers just to scratch out some enjoyments in life.

[Anonymous]

I did it for years and it is soul crushing. No doubt.

[Anonymous]

Being unhappy with your work situation forces people to do something to fix it. It’s a healthy situation for young people that builds character and resilience. Whining is wasted time and misdirected focus.

[Anonymous]

I am with Brielle on this one. Why isn’t anyone questioning the 40 hour work week at this point? Wby are we working the same number of hours that we worked before we had the technology we have today? For example, my first job included photos to submit with reports. This meant driving the film to a store to get developed, coming back a few days later, scanning them, downloading them, saving them to a floppy disc to pass along to our photo documentation guy. He would put it in the template, add captions I had emailed, and then return the report to me. Now I could do the entire process on my phone in a couple of minutes. So why don’t we work shorter days?

[Anonymous]

I recall having the same complaints. (Gen xer here) Not sure why this has to turn into an excuse to bash generation z.