When is the first year MV kids aren't "guaranteed" DCI access?

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Anonymous wrote:https://dcinternationalschool.org/about-us/faqs/

Note, it says "in the language tracks in which they are enrolled". So that means the Chinese and French schools don't give spots to extra MV graduates.

Also: "DCI has sibling preference within DCI, as well as with the following member schools: DC Bilingual, LAMB, Mundo Verde, and Yu Ying. Sibling preference can only be approved for siblings in the same language track."

So that seems like if there's too many MV kids for the allocation, those who are DCI siblings would have preference for the empty seats.

Does anyone know why Stokes doesn’t receive a sibling preference? It seems odd and unfair that it isn’t consistent across the board.

Stokes has been talking about starting their own middle school EOTR. How such a small school can do that is a mystery.

Or it could be just a mistake in the text of the website.

I hope they create another immersion MS option EOTR. We are at Global Citizens and can’t imagine traveling all the way to DCI for immersion.

The intent of Stokes for the middle school was to be an option for the DCPS immersion schools as well as others charters on that side of DC and not just their students.

I wouldn't get your hopes up-- Stokes recently found out their agreement with DCI precludes them from doing this, so that's a major obstacle. And I've never really understood how a school with, *at best* 100 5th graders total would be able to produce a middle school when most of their kids will also get into DCI.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, the vast majority of parents posting negative things about the school are either venting about very current frustrations ( like the parents who protested and MV called the cops on them) or they are parents who left the school in the past 5 years in extreme frustration, and are trying to warn others.

These waves of complaints are typically countered by 1 or 2 Calle Ocho parents who offer a single anecdote about how their one kid managed to dodge all of the bullets (the repeated and systemic issues raised by the negative parents) and is doing fine.

Very well said. Not caring about an issue doesn't make it go away.

Nope, I would counter that 2 campuses with 2 different leaderships at the school May nit run the same way. It’s obvious you don’t understand that. Just like Stokes has 2 campuses and they are very different in how each school is run.

Lastly, like every school, you might have a great year and a terrible year with teachers, certain circumstances, trouble kids in a class, etc…. I can say this from my own experience. This was clear from the protest which was just parents in a certain 3rd grade class and not the whole school and all grades.

Oh but we understand it all too well. Know what else we understand? That they're still run by the same dysfunctional leadership at the top.

Look, many of us remember the good times at P St. Back when everyone was excited about the school, when the constant teacher turnover and weak academics and behavior issues hadn't really caught up to it yet. Back when there was a DCI guarantee rather than just a preference. It's nice that you're happy with Calle Ocho, but in time, you might find the same issues popping up just like we did. Or maybe the issues are there now but you haven't personally experienced them. Don't be so sure you have it all figured out.

I would also point out to you that having 5th graders might not improve your scores as much as you think. They're still only one out of 3 grades in the testing pool, and possibly a numerically smaller grade, so there's only so much they can pull up the totals even if the 5th graders perform well. And at Stokes, just to pick a DCI feeder example, the 5th grade ELA scores are lower than the 4th grade ELA scores. The same is true at LAMB and DCB. Now, why might this be? It's because at many schools, the higher-performing kids exit to Latin and BASIS seeking a guarantee of a high school spot and strong academics. Since Calle Ocho kids don't have a guaranteed place at DCI, I would expect the same pattern to hold.

Well thanks PP for proving my point that you have no idea what is going on since you have NO kids at the school.

There has been in place some new, added leadership for the past 2 years who is running the school in regards to academics, curriculums, teacher support, etc….There have been some changes and new programs implemented that we are just starting to see the many positive results of at the end of last year.

Let’s bookmark this thread and circle back in 3 years, shall we, and just see how CO scores are. BTW trends at one school doesn’t predict trends at another. Guess you also miss the post in this thread where Latin flat out said at their open house that they don’t get many immersion kids.

BTW I never said I had anything figured out. I said my kid is having a great experience and doing well academically and BTW know other families at the school who is having a similar experience. You obviously can’t say the same since you have not had any kids at the school for years. It’s sad you are so bitter from your experience years ago and can’t move on.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, the vast majority of parents posting negative things about the school are either venting about very current frustrations ( like the parents who protested and MV called the cops on them) or they are parents who left the school in the past 5 years in extreme frustration, and are trying to warn others.

These waves of complaints are typically countered by 1 or 2 Calle Ocho parents who offer a single anecdote about how their one kid managed to dodge all of the bullets (the repeated and systemic issues raised by the negative parents) and is doing fine.

Very well said. Not caring about an issue doesn't make it go away.

Nope, I would counter that 2 campuses with 2 different leaderships at the school May nit run the same way. It’s obvious you don’t understand that. Just like Stokes has 2 campuses and they are very different in how each school is run.

Lastly, like every school, you might have a great year and a terrible year with teachers, certain circumstances, trouble kids in a class, etc…. I can say this from my own experience. This was clear from the protest which was just parents in a certain 3rd grade class and not the whole school and all grades.

Oh but we understand it all too well. Know what else we understand? That they're still run by the same dysfunctional leadership at the top.

Look, many of us remember the good times at P St. Back when everyone was excited about the school, when the constant teacher turnover and weak academics and behavior issues hadn't really caught up to it yet. Back when there was a DCI guarantee rather than just a preference. It's nice that you're happy with Calle Ocho, but in time, you might find the same issues popping up just like we did. Or maybe the issues are there now but you haven't personally experienced them. Don't be so sure you have it all figured out.

I would also point out to you that having 5th graders might not improve your scores as much as you think. They're still only one out of 3 grades in the testing pool, and possibly a numerically smaller grade, so there's only so much they can pull up the totals even if the 5th graders perform well. And at Stokes, just to pick a DCI feeder example, the 5th grade ELA scores are lower than the 4th grade ELA scores. The same is true at LAMB and DCB. Now, why might this be? It's because at many schools, the higher-performing kids exit to Latin and BASIS seeking a guarantee of a high school spot and strong academics. Since Calle Ocho kids don't have a guaranteed place at DCI, I would expect the same pattern to hold.

Well thanks PP for proving my point that you have no idea what is going on since you have NO kids at the school.

There has been in place some new, added leadership for the past 2 years who is running the school in regards to academics, curriculums, teacher support, etc….There have been some changes and new programs implemented that we are just starting to see the many positive results of at the end of last year.

Let’s bookmark this thread and circle back in 3 years, shall we, and just see how CO scores are. BTW trends at one school doesn’t predict trends at another. Guess you also miss the post in this thread where Latin flat out said at their open house that they don’t get many immersion kids.

BTW I never said I had anything figured out. I said my kid is having a great experience and doing well academically and BTW know other families at the school who is having a similar experience. You obviously can’t say the same since you have not had any kids at the school for years. It’s sad you are so bitter from your experience years ago and can’t move on.

Ok. Improvements are right around the corner! Everything will go great and the things that other schools struggle with won't be a problem because.... because you say so! Your kid is doing well and you don't care that others aren't. And past MV parents have nothing of interest to contribute, even though both campuses have the same dysfunctional leadership and many of the same built-in challenges. Okeydoke. Glad you're happy. Even though you're saying all the same things P St. parents did, back before the problems became too public to ignore.

If you're interested in actual data, here's some: https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways
It doesn't say how many kids go to each school, but it does show kids from P St going to Latin and BASIS. And you can see in the same data set that Latin (across both campuses) took kids from Stokes, YY, Sela, DCB, and LAMB. So it might not be a lot of kids relative to Latin's total enrollment, but they certainly do receive kids from the DCI feeder schools. And the same is true of BASIS.

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Hey, I'm not the PP that the pro-MV parent is arguing with, and I pulled my younger kid out of MV so I'm not there now. But what's disturbing to former parents is that the current problems are eerily similar to the old problems. When my older child was there nearly 7 years ago, parents banded together and demanded action because one grade had a revolving door of teachers for a full year, and their academic and social development suffered. This is EXACTLY what parent protesters were complaining about in the spring of THIS YEAR.

You can write the protesting parents off as an isolated incident since it didn't affect you, but people with more context are telling you that it isn't isolated. And until there is a wholesale administrative change, we want to warn prospective parents that these problems will continue.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, the vast majority of parents posting negative things about the school are either venting about very current frustrations ( like the parents who protested and MV called the cops on them) or they are parents who left the school in the past 5 years in extreme frustration, and are trying to warn others.

These waves of complaints are typically countered by 1 or 2 Calle Ocho parents who offer a single anecdote about how their one kid managed to dodge all of the bullets (the repeated and systemic issues raised by the negative parents) and is doing fine.

Very well said. Not caring about an issue doesn't make it go away.

Nope, I would counter that 2 campuses with 2 different leaderships at the school May nit run the same way. It’s obvious you don’t understand that. Just like Stokes has 2 campuses and they are very different in how each school is run.

Lastly, like every school, you might have a great year and a terrible year with teachers, certain circumstances, trouble kids in a class, etc…. I can say this from my own experience. This was clear from the protest which was just parents in a certain 3rd grade class and not the whole school and all grades.

Oh but we understand it all too well. Know what else we understand? That they're still run by the same dysfunctional leadership at the top.

Look, many of us remember the good times at P St. Back when everyone was excited about the school, when the constant teacher turnover and weak academics and behavior issues hadn't really caught up to it yet. Back when there was a DCI guarantee rather than just a preference. It's nice that you're happy with Calle Ocho, but in time, you might find the same issues popping up just like we did. Or maybe the issues are there now but you haven't personally experienced them. Don't be so sure you have it all figured out.

I would also point out to you that having 5th graders might not improve your scores as much as you think. They're still only one out of 3 grades in the testing pool, and possibly a numerically smaller grade, so there's only so much they can pull up the totals even if the 5th graders perform well. And at Stokes, just to pick a DCI feeder example, the 5th grade ELA scores are lower than the 4th grade ELA scores. The same is true at LAMB and DCB. Now, why might this be? It's because at many schools, the higher-performing kids exit to Latin and BASIS seeking a guarantee of a high school spot and strong academics. Since Calle Ocho kids don't have a guaranteed place at DCI, I would expect the same pattern to hold.

Well thanks PP for proving my point that you have no idea what is going on since you have NO kids at the school.

There has been in place some new, added leadership for the past 2 years who is running the school in regards to academics, curriculums, teacher support, etc….There have been some changes and new programs implemented that we are just starting to see the many positive results of at the end of last year.

Let’s bookmark this thread and circle back in 3 years, shall we, and just see how CO scores are. BTW trends at one school doesn’t predict trends at another. Guess you also miss the post in this thread where Latin flat out said at their open house that they don’t get many immersion kids.

BTW I never said I had anything figured out. I said my kid is having a great experience and doing well academically and BTW know other families at the school who is having a similar experience. You obviously can’t say the same since you have not had any kids at the school for years. It’s sad you are so bitter from your experience years ago and can’t move on.

I recommend that you stop feeding the troll. MV, Yu Ying, and LAMB threads, (probably Oyster too) always have one troll that makes it hard to have a real Conversation about the actual question.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I can tell, the vast majority of parents posting negative things about the school are either venting about very current frustrations ( like the parents who protested and MV called the cops on them) or they are parents who left the school in the past 5 years in extreme frustration, and are trying to warn others.

These waves of complaints are typically countered by 1 or 2 Calle Ocho parents who offer a single anecdote about how their one kid managed to dodge all of the bullets (the repeated and systemic issues raised by the negative parents) and is doing fine.

Very well said. Not caring about an issue doesn't make it go away.

Nope, I would counter that 2 campuses with 2 different leaderships at the school May nit run the same way. It’s obvious you don’t understand that. Just like Stokes has 2 campuses and they are very different in how each school is run.

Lastly, like every school, you might have a great year and a terrible year with teachers, certain circumstances, trouble kids in a class, etc…. I can say this from my own experience. This was clear from the protest which was just parents in a certain 3rd grade class and not the whole school and all grades.

Oh but we understand it all too well. Know what else we understand? That they're still run by the same dysfunctional leadership at the top.

Look, many of us remember the good times at P St. Back when everyone was excited about the school, when the constant teacher turnover and weak academics and behavior issues hadn't really caught up to it yet. Back when there was a DCI guarantee rather than just a preference. It's nice that you're happy with Calle Ocho, but in time, you might find the same issues popping up just like we did. Or maybe the issues are there now but you haven't personally experienced them. Don't be so sure you have it all figured out.

I would also point out to you that having 5th graders might not improve your scores as much as you think. They're still only one out of 3 grades in the testing pool, and possibly a numerically smaller grade, so there's only so much they can pull up the totals even if the 5th graders perform well. And at Stokes, just to pick a DCI feeder example, the 5th grade ELA scores are lower than the 4th grade ELA scores. The same is true at LAMB and DCB. Now, why might this be? It's because at many schools, the higher-performing kids exit to Latin and BASIS seeking a guarantee of a high school spot and strong academics. Since Calle Ocho kids don't have a guaranteed place at DCI, I would expect the same pattern to hold.

Well thanks PP for proving my point that you have no idea what is going on since you have NO kids at the school.

There has been in place some new, added leadership for the past 2 years who is running the school in regards to academics, curriculums, teacher support, etc….There have been some changes and new programs implemented that we are just starting to see the many positive results of at the end of last year.

Let’s bookmark this thread and circle back in 3 years, shall we, and just see how CO scores are. BTW trends at one school doesn’t predict trends at another. Guess you also miss the post in this thread where Latin flat out said at their open house that they don’t get many immersion kids.

BTW I never said I had anything figured out. I said my kid is having a great experience and doing well academically and BTW know other families at the school who is having a similar experience. You obviously can’t say the same since you have not had any kids at the school for years. It’s sad you are so bitter from your experience years ago and can’t move on.

I recommend that you stop feeding the troll. MV, Yu Ying, and LAMB threads, (probably Oyster too) always have one troll that makes it hard to have a real Conversation about the actual question.

OP's initial question has been answered. But the question of getting into DCI depends on MV students' matriculation rate to DCI, and how many people leave MV before 5th grade. And that question goes directly to parent satisfaction with MV.