APS new “hall pass system”

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike hearing it called a bathroom “privilege.” Going to the bathroom is a basic human function and a need. Some kids are abusing the time away from class that they are granted to use the bathroom, but going to the bathroom isn’t a privilege.

Not for the teachers. We can’t leave so giving the kids the right to leave class to pee is an extra privilege from our perspective because we can’t do it.

So you're ok with withholding this basic right from your students because you can't access it yourself? I had to walk uphill to school both ways so you should too? Listen to yourself and do better.

Human rights, mean rights for every human. If that is your stance on a kid needing to use the bathroom, that it is a HUMAN right, then teachers qualify. Listen to yourself and do better and construct a better argument. Maybe even read the sign in your yard (or your neighbor’s yard) that says human rights are for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

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I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

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I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike hearing it called a bathroom “privilege.” Going to the bathroom is a basic human function and a need. Some kids are abusing the time away from class that they are granted to use the bathroom, but going to the bathroom isn’t a privilege.

Not for the teachers. We can’t leave so giving the kids the right to leave class to pee is an extra privilege from our perspective because we can’t do it.

So you're ok with withholding this basic right from your students because you can't access it yourself? I had to walk uphill to school both ways so you should too? Listen to yourself and do better.

Human rights, mean rights for every human. If that is your stance on a kid needing to use the bathroom, that it is a HUMAN right, then teachers qualify. Listen to yourself and do better and construct a better argument. Maybe even read the sign in your yard (or your neighbor’s yard) that says human rights are for everyone.

I can't even follow you here.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

+1

I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

Demanding to hear details about random operational decisions as if they need your approval sounds like parents’ rights rhetoric.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

+1

I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

Demanding to hear details about random operational decisions as if they need your approval sounds like parents’ rights rhetoric.

Geez, the MAGA person really was right. I didn’t “demand” anything. You are running a public school system not a public company, for gods sake. Parents are it backbone and advocates (financially and otherwise). I am arguing that communicating changes like this would be helpful to everyone. I did not say we should take a vote. Just communicate in a clear and concise and persuasive way. Like maybe a couple of hours for a competent human being. And I’m MAGA? This is the problem—anyone who questions APS is accused by Syphax trolls of really ridiculous AEM, MAGA behavior. The name calling is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

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but that doesn't fit with the parents rights narrative so they are choosing to ignore this and get all self righteous. This makes them look especially stupid.

Or, rather, parents with questions and concerns expressed them BEFORE KNOWING it may not have to go on their kids' phones.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

+1

I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

Demanding to hear details about random operational decisions as if they need your approval sounds like parents’ rights rhetoric.

This is the part YOU keep inserting into others' (and my) comments. Never said a damn thing about "approval."

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I really don't understand why you don't ask someone at the school??? Seriously

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

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I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

Demanding to hear details about random operational decisions as if they need your approval sounds like parents’ rights rhetoric.

Geez, the MAGA person really was right. I didn’t “demand” anything. You are running a public school system not a public company, for gods sake. Parents are it backbone and advocates (financially and otherwise). I am arguing that communicating changes like this would be helpful to everyone. I did not say we should take a vote. Just communicate in a clear and concise and persuasive way. Like maybe a couple of hours for a competent human being. And I’m MAGA? This is the problem—anyone who questions APS is accused by Syphax trolls of really ridiculous AEM, MAGA behavior. The name calling is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

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I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

I am the OP and I don’t really disagree. I posted because the ArlNow story made it sound like the App lived on your phone and my kids MS has phones away all day so I was curious how that would work, that’s all. APS has said nothing about it but posters on this board say that’s not right; it’s on their schools iPads. I’m genuinely fine with it, although I really do believe that APS could do a million things to just communicate basic information better. I, for one, was unaware that the bathrooms were such a problem. I have a younger MS student so perhaps this becomes common knowledge? Regardless, I think if it’s a problem then step one would be to communicate with parents that it is a problem and what we should say to our kids. Step two would be something like we’ve tried this App, it’s effective for the following reason and we are rolling it out. I imagine this communication would take one competent employee a couple of hours. I am not asking for the moon. Just basic discourse about what is happening and why. I understand some nutters will still complain about the right to pee as an unassailable human rights crap. I am 100% behind the teachers trying to do their best to manage this. I’ also believe APS could communicate better.

Be careful. You're going to be labeled a MAGA parents's rights person for saying the same thing I was saying.

Demanding to hear details about random operational decisions as if they need your approval sounds like parents’ rights rhetoric.

Geez, the MAGA person really was right. I didn’t “demand” anything. You are running a public school system not a public company, for gods sake. Parents are it backbone and advocates (financially and otherwise). I am arguing that communicating changes like this would be helpful to everyone. I did not say we should take a vote. Just communicate in a clear and concise and persuasive way. Like maybe a couple of hours for a competent human being. And I’m MAGA? This is the problem—anyone who questions APS is accused by Syphax trolls of really ridiculous AEM, MAGA behavior. The name calling is on you.

I am not running anything. The public servants hired by the government officials that we elected are running our schools.

Parents are only one stakeholder and not a decision maker on every little operational thing.

PP demanding to hear details: "I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works."

And I didn't call anyone MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

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but that doesn't fit with the parents rights narrative so they are choosing to ignore this and get all self righteous. This makes them look especially stupid.

Or, rather, parents with questions and concerns expressed them BEFORE KNOWING it may not have to go on their kids' phones.

So now APS needs to anticipate parent's false assumptions?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

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but that doesn't fit with the parents rights narrative so they are choosing to ignore this and get all self righteous. This makes them look especially stupid.

Or, rather, parents with questions and concerns expressed them BEFORE KNOWING it may not have to go on their kids' phones.

So now APS needs to anticipate parent's false assumptions?

It would be in their better interests if they at least tried, yeah.
If APS can talk to ArlNow and make statements that a new app will be used that students can/will be using on their phones, APS could communicate to parents that they are implementing a new program that involves an app students may be downloading on their phones. And, in a pretty easy-to-make anticipation that some parents might have some questions or possibly even object to their kid downloading the app on their phone, could go on to explain CLARIFY that it does not require the student to have a phone or download anything on their phone BY EXPLAINING HOW the app will be used and HOW it will work. So, yes. APS should anticipate potential mistaken assumptions....especially when those assumptions are based on actual quotes from APS staff in a news article.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

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but that doesn't fit with the parents rights narrative so they are choosing to ignore this and get all self righteous. This makes them look especially stupid.

Or, rather, parents with questions and concerns expressed them BEFORE KNOWING it may not have to go on their kids' phones.

Nope. The article posted at the outset said:
"Students can download Minga to their smartphone or use it on their laptop or tablet."

How is this unclear?

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At Yorktown, the presentation to staff indicated that teachers would be monitoring the passes while teaching class, and that if a kid took longer than the time alotted, they system would reduce the time available for the next pass. That seems ridiculous.