APS new “hall pass system”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spouse is teacher at middle school in FCPS that has something like this. Said it is super disruptive to running classes. Kids sign up on their computer. Teacher has to approve each one on their computer. Every class there is queue. Kids are always asking if she saw their request, etc. Kids get a certain number of passes per day and most feel like they need to have to use all them regardless if they actually need to go. Hard to stay in the flow of teaching content when they are constantly having to deal with requests for the bathroom

How is that different from now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spouse is teacher at middle school in FCPS that has something like this. Said it is super disruptive to running classes. Kids sign up on their computer. Teacher has to approve each one on their computer. Every class there is queue. Kids are always asking if she saw their request, etc. Kids get a certain number of passes per day and most feel like they need to have to use all them regardless if they actually need to go. Hard to stay in the flow of teaching content when they are constantly having to deal with requests for the bathroom

How is that different from now?

Wait, I know-no lost or missing, filthy gross passes. Some data and accountability when needed.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

[Anonymous]

And people ask us why we chose private school for our kids….here’s one of the many reasons why!

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dislike hearing it called a bathroom “privilege.” Going to the bathroom is a basic human function and a need. Some kids are abusing the time away from class that they are granted to use the bathroom, but going to the bathroom isn’t a privilege.

Not for the teachers. We can’t leave so giving the kids the right to leave class to pee is an extra privilege from our perspective because we can’t do it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And people ask us why we chose private school for our kids….here’s one of the many reasons why!

Because of hall passes? Ok. Humor us, how do hall passes work in your private school?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And people ask us why we chose private school for our kids….here’s one of the many reasons why!

Because of hall passes? Ok. Humor us, how do hall passes work in your private school?

LOL. PP has to rationalize paying money for substandard education any way possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike hearing it called a bathroom “privilege.” Going to the bathroom is a basic human function and a need. Some kids are abusing the time away from class that they are granted to use the bathroom, but going to the bathroom isn’t a privilege.

Not for the teachers. We can’t leave so giving the kids the right to leave class to pee is an extra privilege from our perspective because we can’t do it.

So you're ok with withholding this basic right from your students because you can't access it yourself? I had to walk uphill to school both ways so you should too? Listen to yourself and do better.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

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Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You parents righters MAGA types sure are fascinated with anything having to do with chidren's use of bathrooms.

You're such an idiot. But I think you're just putting on being an idiot because you prefer to make a statement. The least you could do is direct your comment to an actual MAGA type. I'm way left of that, a solid DEM.

Look who you're aligned with. Your preoccupation with children's bathroom activities places you right in this camp. Personally, I don't care what kind of pass my kids' schools are using to send them to the bathroom. If it becomes an issue, I'll tune in.

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I support whatever tools that my kid's teachers/admin think are best to manage the day-to-day operations. If some issue comes up, fine, but parents don't need to micromanage that stuff FFS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.

You do know what’s going on. You don’t have the right to say what programs APS will use or how your kid will be exempt from school policies.

I do have a right to say whether my child downloads an app on their personal phone. I said nothing at all about exempting my child from any school policy - unless that means putting something on their personal property, in which case, yes, I have a right to request an alternative method. What if a kid doesn't even own a phone? Do you expect APS to require parents to go out and buy them one?

Other than that, I did not even suggest that the school can't make decisions or implement policies. I only commented that the school should be letting parents and students know what those decisions and policies are and how they work/will be implemented, but that they have not done so. I also noted that if they had, there wouldn't be as many questions or concerns expressed here.

But you're just looking to call someone a MAGA parents' righter; so it doesn't matter what I say because apparently saying anything means total opposition and political right extremism. If you don't have any questions about how Minga will be implemented or the logistics of how the system will work, fine. Others do and have every right to comment and ask questions. If it's irrelevant to you, then don't bother reading the chain and leave the rest of us alone.

Again, the app doesn’t have to go on their phone. It lives on their school device. Multiple people who use this program have told you this.

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but that doesn't fit with the parents rights narrative so they are choosing to ignore this and get all self righteous. This makes them look especially stupid.