APS new “hall pass system”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our schools are operating more and more like jails.

FCPS parent/former staffer/alumna. Just one reason I left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should make Syphax employees use this app and track them. Make sure they're where they're supposed to be and know where to find them when they aren't responding to emails or phone calls.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now APS is going to require kids to bring a recording device to the bathroom? What could go wrong?!

I had not even thought of this concern yet. Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now APS is going to require kids to bring a recording device to the bathroom? What could go wrong?!

I had not even thought of this concern yet. Yikes.

First of all, they don’t have to take it with them. The pass is live in the system without them having the device. Second, most kids have their phones on them in the bathroom all the time anyway.

[Anonymous]

This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+100 The fact that there are pages of discussion over a new hall pass is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Lots of rumors here. I doubt the expectation is that kids will have to use their own phones. I highly doubt the expectation is that they take their laptops or iPads into the bathrooms.

Sorry, but I appreciate this effort on the part of APS. It may eliminate kids meeting up in the bathroom, or abusing bathroom privileges. That, I assure you, is rampant. Of course, there are many kids that don’t abuse the privilege, occasionally may need to take longer, or what have you. I doubt any of this will be a problem for them.

It is an extra measure of school safety and security. I’m down.

Using the bathroom should be a right. You teachers and admins are so gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Lots of rumors here. I doubt the expectation is that kids will have to use their own phones. I highly doubt the expectation is that they take their laptops or iPads into the bathrooms.

Sorry, but I appreciate this effort on the part of APS. It may eliminate kids meeting up in the bathroom, or abusing bathroom privileges. That, I assure you, is rampant. Of course, there are many kids that don’t abuse the privilege, occasionally may need to take longer, or what have you. I doubt any of this will be a problem for them.

It is an extra measure of school safety and security. I’m down.

Using the bathroom should be a right. You teachers and admins are so gross.

Using the bathroom isn’t the problem. Making a pass to do drugs or have sex in the bathroom or roam the halls or skip class or meet up for fights or to buy drugs is the problem. All of which happen in high schools.

[Anonymous]

I dislike hearing it called a bathroom “privilege.” Going to the bathroom is a basic human function and a need. Some kids are abusing the time away from class that they are granted to use the bathroom, but going to the bathroom isn’t a privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

[Anonymous]

Spouse is teacher at middle school in FCPS that has something like this. Said it is super disruptive to running classes. Kids sign up on their computer. Teacher has to approve each one on their computer. Every class there is queue. Kids are always asking if she saw their request, etc. Kids get a certain number of passes per day and most feel like they need to have to use all them regardless if they actually need to go. Hard to stay in the flow of teaching content when they are constantly having to deal with requests for the bathroom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a nothing burger. Part of me thinks APS should have communicated this out to parents, and we all know they suck at that. But then I am also thinking do they actually need to announce a new kind of hall pass, when it's just NBD. Is that really the info parents need?

No, it’s not, and the commenters who act like every single thing schools decide to do should be fully run by parents first until everyone reaches a quorum that it is an acceptable choice is preposterous. You are not members of a democracy here. The schools do not have to justify every single thing they do and get your full approval before moving forward.

+1

Sit down, MAGA.

I don't think it's a nothing-burger the way parents found out about it and the way it was reported. APS has not communicated anything directly to parents yet. APS has not clarified anything from the arlnow article which indicates kids may download the app on their personal phones. As a parent, I don't want my kids downloading it on their phone; but unless parents are aware ahead of time, the kid might not know how their parent feels about it and go ahead and download. HOPEFULLY, APS will tell students they need their parent's permission to download it onto their phone and until then or without that permission, they use it on their school-issued device.

APS also has not explained how the system will actually work. that's why the ruckus. If APS had/would explain that the devices don't have to go into the bathrooms, people wouldn't be making comments and posting so many questions here.

APS also has not indicated exactly how Minga will and will not be used, whether it will be a digital hall pass system only, or if it becomes a digital ID replacing printed IDs (which means kids are more likely going to NEED to have it on their phones), if they will consider using it as yet another communications avenue, etc. The Minga program is more than just a digital ID system. I believe APS has a responsibility and obligation to explain to students and parents exactly why and how they intend to use it, as well as specifically how it works.

So, in the end, maybe it won't be such a big deal. But in the typical absence of APS communication and information, I think it's perfectly reasonable for parents to question and raise potential concerns.

And the Parents Righters are back.

If you're referring to the right to know what's going on, sure.